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I miss being able to get a pain killer from my doctor when I need it
Anyone miss the good ole days? Especially those who have been around since...
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Oh sure as hell do! The packages getting from OPPS to customs to zip code to delivery. Now it's US zip to US zip but the cost is 5x higher and quantity is 3x lower. Those prices ain't coming back for sure. Do you think Monkeypox will make it worse?
I have similar thoughts. But also indulge in cynicisms. If I didn't know any better, I would think that some larger "players" somehow profit from the prohibition. That is, with greater risk, the market demands greater return. Prohibition has been talked about as a great price support for commodities that would otherwise be fairly inexpensive.
All I can say is that when the internet was first starting up and I found IOP’s, I thought my days of worrying about access to my preferred med were over. I couldn’t begin to imagine what has now taken place. The whole world has turned into “big brother.” Geezus I wish they’d stop taking such “good” care of us…
Am watching the series Narcos. Do we EVER learn from the past? The incredible amount of violence and bloodshed that is a result of the whole world’s “war on drugs” is mindblowing. I just can’t believe in this whole international attempt to control the flow of substances that continue to, and likely always will continue to be in demand - that they haven’t learned they will never win? The amount, the cost and the demand is ever increasing. Yeah it blows my mind. I just can’t believe that someone wise enough will start to see that a completely new approach is called for.
Historically, liquor prohibition took small crime outfits and made them into big "multinationals".
Then there are the banks who take a big cut off the laundering. The so-called War on Drugs is another bonanza for agencies that can always keep coming, hat-in-hand to the legislature for bigger budgets (and salaries) and also profit from asset forfeitures. It's a "racket" all its own.
Well, that's two rants for the day - now I'll quiet down!
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I have similar thoughts. But also indulge in cynicisms. If I didn't know any better, I would think that some larger "players" somehow profit from the prohibition. That is, with greater risk, the market demands greater return. Prohibition has been talked about as a great price support for commodities that would otherwise be fairly inexpensive.
All I can say is that when the internet was first starting up and I found IOP’s, I thought my days of worrying about access to my preferred med were over. I couldn’t begin to imagine what has now taken place. The whole world has turned into “big brother.” Geezus I wish they’d stop taking such “good” care of us…
Am watching the series Narcos. Do we EVER learn from the past? The incredible amount of violence and bloodshed that is a result of the whole world’s “war on drugs” is mindblowing. I just can’t believe in this whole international attempt to control the flow of substances that continue to, and likely always will continue to be in demand - that they haven’t learned they will never win? The amount, the cost and the demand is ever increasing. Yeah it blows my mind. I just can’t believe that someone wise enough will start to see that a completely new approach is called for.
Historically, liquor prohibition took small crime outfits and made them into big "multinationals".
Then there are the banks who take a big cut off the laundering. The so-called War on Drugs is another bonanza for agencies that can always keep coming, hat-in-hand to the legislature for bigger budgets (and salaries) and also profit from asset forfeitures. It's a "racket" all its own.
Well, that's two rants for the day - now I'll quiet down!
I think you could definitely be on to something, but I also feel that, despite the legality and complete acceptance of alcohol, just about everyone is rather appalled at the idea of putting other drugs into the same category as alcohol - regulated and controlled but legal. And despite my own “libertarian” views when it comes to “we should be able to make our own choices about what we imbibe” it still is a pretty scary thought to do this, even to me.
There has to be some middle ground somewhere tho. Any move couldn’t be worse than what’s going on now. I think a lot of the problems surrounding drug use would lessen if folks had easy access to lesser “tier” drugs - say - codeine versus heroin or adderal versus meth. (Just some examples.) I don’t know. I just know that if you’re managing your life and not breaking laws or losing jobs/marriages over drug use, it should be no one else’s business. But once you jump into becoming homeless and doing nothing but stealing to use and survive - then I think society has a right and an obligation to intervene.
It’s a tough issue with certainly no one answer. I do think the crackdown by customs did come about because so many folks did way overuse and too many killed themselves. Not to mention a lot of them were inexperienced kids and so understandably, parents want SOMETHING done.
Drug use and misuse seems to be skyrocketing no matter what the laws are. I wonder why and what that is all about in general…
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Many countries have made drugs legal and received increased tax revenue as well as worker output & happy citizens overall.It should all be legal in my opinion.People should be able to use common sense or just die due to stupidity.I have similar thoughts. But also indulge in cynicisms. If I didn't know any better, I would think that some larger "players" somehow profit from the prohibition. That is, with greater risk, the market demands greater return. Prohibition has been talked about as a great price support for commodities that would otherwise be fairly inexpensive.
All I can say is that when the internet was first starting up and I found IOP’s, I thought my days of worrying about access to my preferred med were over. I couldn’t begin to imagine what has now taken place. The whole world has turned into “big brother.” Geezus I wish they’d stop taking such “good” care of us…
Am watching the series Narcos. Do we EVER learn from the past? The incredible amount of violence and bloodshed that is a result of the whole world’s “war on drugs” is mindblowing. I just can’t believe in this whole international attempt to control the flow of substances that continue to, and likely always will continue to be in demand - that they haven’t learned they will never win? The amount, the cost and the demand is ever increasing. Yeah it blows my mind. I just can’t believe that someone wise enough will start to see that a completely new approach is called for.
Historically, liquor prohibition took small crime outfits and made them into big "multinationals".
Then there are the banks who take a big cut off the laundering. The so-called War on Drugs is another bonanza for agencies that can always keep coming, hat-in-hand to the legislature for bigger budgets (and salaries) and also profit from asset forfeitures. It's a "racket" all its own.
Well, that's two rants for the day - now I'll quiet down!
I think you could definitely be on to something, but I also feel that, despite the legality and complete acceptance of alcohol, just about everyone is rather appalled at the idea of putting other drugs into the same category as alcohol - regulated and controlled but legal. And despite my own “libertarian” views when it comes to “we should be able to make our own choices about what we imbibe” it still is a pretty scary thought to do this, even to me.
There has to be some middle ground somewhere tho. Any move couldn’t be worse than what’s going on now. I think a lot of the problems surrounding drug use would lessen if folks had easy access to lesser “tier” drugs - say - codeine versus heroin or adderal versus meth. (Just some examples.) I don’t know. I just know that if you’re managing your life and not breaking laws or losing jobs/marriages over drug use, it should be no one else’s business. But once you jump into becoming homeless and doing nothing but stealing to use and survive - then I think society has a right and an obligation to intervene.
It’s a tough issue with certainly no one answer. I do think the crackdown by customs did come about because so many folks did way overuse and too many killed themselves. Not to mention a lot of them were inexperienced kids and so understandably, parents want SOMETHING done.
Drug use and misuse seems to be skyrocketing no matter what the laws are. I wonder why and what that is all about in general…
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I was just saying on another thread that we need a "remember when?" thread, and here it is....
remember when?....here's one story.....
....I recall being in FL in the late 1990's, while there, I had a very painful thrombosis and went to the ER and they gave me an Rx for pain med's and I didn't even ask for it. It was just second nature then to write a prescription for any painful condition. The irony was that I was down there to help an elderly family member that was recovering from surgery. They had literally showered her with med's, so many (and I kid you not), that she had a bag full of loose mixed pills that she didn't need anymore, b/c they had changed up her script. I offered to sort the med's out for her and put them in labeled bottles, but she didn't need them anymore, so she just asked me to get rid of them. I threw them out all right, but not before I sorted out the good stuff for my own little care package. Talk about a "goody bag". Pill mills and oxy "blues" were the trademark of the day, back then.
remember when?....here's one story.....
....I recall being in FL in the late 1990's, while there, I had a very painful thrombosis and went to the ER and they gave me an Rx for pain med's and I didn't even ask for it. It was just second nature then to write a prescription for any painful condition. The irony was that I was down there to help an elderly family member that was recovering from surgery. They had literally showered her with med's, so many (and I kid you not), that she had a bag full of loose mixed pills that she didn't need anymore, b/c they had changed up her script. I offered to sort the med's out for her and put them in labeled bottles, but she didn't need them anymore, so she just asked me to get rid of them. I threw them out all right, but not before I sorted out the good stuff for my own little care package. Talk about a "goody bag". Pill mills and oxy "blues" were the trademark of the day, back then.
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Yeah, we definitely didn't know how good we had it. But with the internet, I just don't see access ever getting eliminated completely. Where there's demand there is bound to be supply. Human nature...
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It’s too scary to think about ordering any type of med on that level these days, I’ve recently come across and read several stories on people thinking they were getting a Xanax or an Adderall and it was laced with fentanyl because fentanyl is apparently Pennies compared to the ingredients in these others and just much easier to make. It’s gotten out of hand and Especially now that the border is wide open. It’s just not worth your life to take any kind of risk like that. 
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I miss the old days where vendors were held to the fire for any mistake. Gobs of vendors and legit meds back then. Now despite me being a senior member the number of vendors is steady shrinking. Prices are going up on what vendors we have left.
I absolutely remember. My meds were cheaper and easy to get…then they were scheduled. Oddly, the opium problem skyrocketed after that. Coincidence? I don’t think so. I honestly think a lot of lives could have been saved by keeping the status quo.
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Well i think it was mostly kids being so stupid and those pill mills that contributed to so many deaths, and so of course they have to go after EVERYONE now.
Of course that’s just driving up the price and so fentanyl is entering the picture since it’s definitely much cheaper and also much easier to make and access as well.
So doctors prescribe hardly any any longer but the deaths are still going up. That ought to tell us sumpin ain’t working right…
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Yeah back in the day. Western union must've taken a big hit after bitcoins.
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@theshahofiran I do not miss the days of dragging my ass down to walmart and having to explain to some randomly underpaid employee that yes i know Such N. Such from Bulgaria and that its ok that im sending them 325$ !! Just SEND THE GOD DAMN MONEY!
Yeah don't miss those days. Always felt guilty and worried when doing MG/WU..
Yeah don't miss those days. Always felt guilty and worried when doing MG/WU..
It's, at least, partly on them and they lose out for signing on to the gestapo program.
They're big enough that they could've pushed back some - Fedex did
Hoping the good ole WU days might be back with Bitcoin being so damn difficult to use and people realizing it's more like a casino than a bank.
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Oh man, for sure. Buying medicine online 10+ years ago was a BREEZE compared to now. Now the prices suck and a lot of times you have to go to the dark net for stuff that is tainted with fent, which no one really wants in my opinion. Give me a time machine and send me back!!! 
@Lifeliver
Have you noticed that as fentanyl has become prevalent on the street and mixed in with other drugs as well that it has also become the first go to for hospitals?
If you go to an ER or are admitted with a painful condition this is also their drug of choice.
Have you noticed that as fentanyl has become prevalent on the street and mixed in with other drugs as well that it has also become the first go to for hospitals?
If you go to an ER or are admitted with a painful condition this is also their drug of choice.