Heads up anxiety sufferers... will benzos be next on the alphabet agency chopping block?

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In my experience it's the crack of the benzodiazepine class of drugs
 
I don't think many doctors will prescribe xanax much any longer anyway. The only one you can usually get (if your doctor has any heart at all) is Klonopin. And they seem to not want to give any benzos out at all, just like opiates. Lots of fear out there, sadly...
 
This meta-analysis, while interesting, was conducted using data ONLY from phase 2/3 clinical trials of Xanax ER ( alprazolam extended release ) a version of Xanax not widely in use. Specifically, it does not address the efficacy of standard formulation immediate release alprazolam, which is far and away the version most commonly prescribed here in the U.S.

Interestingly, even this meta-analysis appears to demonstrate the superiority of benzodiazepines against placebo when treating anxiety.
 
THeyve been going after them for a while now, honestly. Luckily plenty of mexico and euro meds to go aroound
 
I sure hope they don't mess with this, its the only one that helps me with panic attacks.
 
I don't think many doctors will prescribe xanax much any longer anyway. The only one you can usually get (if your doctor has any heart at all) is Klonopin. And they seem to not want to give any benzos out at all, just like opiates. Lots of fear out there, sadly...
Yeah you are right. Every other mainstream benzo seems to have a terrible reputation among doctors and there is this belief that has spread over the past 10 or so years that Klonopin is a relatively "safe" benzo that at least compared to other benzos is less likely to be abused.
I don't get it because the dosing with Klonopin actually gets difficult. You can get to high doses of diazepam equivalent at relatively low doses of Klonopin for example 1 2mg Klonopin will be 40mg diazepam equivalent. Surely much safer to give a patient starting benzos 2mg or 5mg diazepam pills rather than those 0.5mg Klonopins (the smallest Klonopin which is 10mg diazepam equivalent)
There is little scientific basis for what the quacks are doing, as per usual
The words "Xanax" and "Valium" will be forever dirty in their eyes, despite diazepam probably being the safest overall with the lower doses.
 
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Daily Mail is a tabloid, so I wouldn't worry as much as I would if this was coming from legit publications. That said, thanks to a now debunked study, a whole generation of doctors are very anti-xanax.
 
In Ohio, the Benso crackdown started at least a year maybe 2 years ago. One cannot have a prescription for any kind of pain meds at the same time as a script for benzoes. So if your psychiatrist gives you some Klonopin to help you sleep after some kind of trauma and then you break your ankle , the orthopedist cannot prescribe a pain pill. I guess the onus to prevent that is on the patient as well as the pharmacist. They also took away the ability to prescribe any Schedule 3 meds from anyone like a PA or a certified nurse partitioner who is not a real MD or some kind of medical DR.

But in the land of cosmic weirdness, last week the voters in Ohio passed an amendment to the state constitution making recreational weed legal for every one. What a hoot!
 
This won’t surprise anyone on here, but does confirm what we are all anecdotally seeing. I occasionally browse Reddit’s subreddits (basically topic specific subforums) for doctors, psychiatrists and other medical professionals. Reddit’s demographics trend on the younger side so I assume a lot of these doctors are in their 30’s.

The subject of benzos comes up pretty regularly and the general consensus among these young docs is that benzos are outdated meds with little-to-no therapeutic value and many refuse to prescribe them at all unless they inherited an older patient who has taken them for years. In that case they immediately move to push a taper plan regardless if the patient is doing well and not abusing.

For patients with anxiety, panic, and other related disorders, the most often recommendations are starting an SSRI/SNRI, which they really believe are so effective they should almost completely replace benzos. If that doesn’t work, next step is CBT therapy. If that doesn’t work they will refer to a psychiatrist for evaluation of a short term course of small dose benzos while they try and adjust different antidepressants. They also recommend lots of crap like hydroxizine, tramadol, buspar, and clonidine.

If internists/family medicine MD’s actually do prescribe any amount of benzos, I often see they will purposely make it as embarrassing and onerous as possible so patients will give up or look for another doctor. All the usual things like under-prescribing, mandatory monthly in-person visits, mandatory drug testing, addiction assessments, predetermined date which the benzo will be discontinued, etc.. This level of scrutiny is even advised for occasional PRN benzo use.

There is also a serious disdain for benzo patients and you see a lot of comments about patients just hiding from reality because they have an inadequate ability to adapt to normal stressors and basically just need to suck it up and learn how to be an adult. Extremely patronizing and arrogant coming from the professionals who are supposed to be the ones to help folks like us.

Finally, they are definitely aware of many of the ways we obtain our meds, be it through concierge medical practices, telehealth doctors, old-school psychiatrists, etc.. and there is a push to report these doctors to the DEA and ostracize any docs who regularly prescribe benzos. Thankfully, I haven’t seen places like PR mentioned.

As a PRN user of benzos for 30-years it’s certainly concerning. I’ve dealt with my issues for about as long as many of these doctors have been alive. I’ve tried every antidepressant known to man with little to no benefit and often serious side effects. I’ve also seen more therapists than I can count and have never found one that I felt addressed or even understood my issues.

I know what works for me that allows me to continue to work and be a contributing member to society. And I’m doing pretty good! But, If I lost my meds I have no doubt I would lose my job and would probably become an alcoholic. It’s so disappointing and I am fearful what the medical world will look like in the coming decade.
 
In Ohio, the Benso crackdown started at least a year maybe 2 years ago. One cannot have a prescription for any kind of pain meds at the same time as a script for benzoes. So if your psychiatrist gives you some Klonopin to help you sleep after some kind of trauma and then you break your ankle , the orthopedist cannot prescribe a pain pill. I guess the onus to prevent that is on the patient as well as the pharmacist. They also took away the ability to prescribe any Schedule 3 meds from anyone like a PA or a certified nurse partitioner who is not a real MD or some kind of medical DR.

But in the land of cosmic weirdness, last week the voters in Ohio passed an amendment to the state constitution making recreational weed legal for every one. What a hoot!
The thing is - with weed, no one else is responsible for what a person does with that substance. The user makes all the decisions.

But with medicines that someone else must “dole” out, monitor, and thus are responsible for, that’s the real problem. Anytime a person can hold someone else responsible for their actions, it all goes to hell rather fast.

It is crazy that we actually think folks should get to call all the shots when it comes to recreational drugs, (and certainly alcohol can be as dangerous/destructive as any other drug I can think of except maybe fentanyl) but for drugs that might actually help a person’s quality of life - THAT’S where our nanny state government gets to make our decisions for us. I guess if we ever truly wish to end this madness, we’d need to just make all the rx drugs available and let folks figure it out for themselves. And actually - I’m for that…👍🤔
 
@jaders Yeah, for sure. We’re in a weird time where prescription meds are more restricted than ever, while at the same time many states are reconsidering drug policies around the black market.

I think the move to legalize cannabis is much needed, and honestly am philosophically fine with decriminalization of most street drugs. But it’s real bizarre to see the massive influx of fentanyl and things like pressed fake benzos containing who knows what, while it’s becoming increasingly hard to get a legit script.

It just seems like the combo of prescription crackdowns and street drug decriminalization is pushing people to seek out the most dangerous options.

But like you said, one of the major issues is legal liability for prescribers. I do understand why doctors want to cover their asses. But it just seems like a continuing failure of US drug policy and flies in the face of harm reduction. And I honestly don’t know what the answer to that is.
 
And yet they're handing out antipsychotics off label like candy!
 
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