Help! I think being set up for a controlled delivery!

[infamousryan]

@jaders not sure if all telemedicine doctors prescribe scheduled meds (even the one that i have talked to shyed away from it, but admitted they do prescribe under specific circumstances that require it . )

Ive also been taking medicines for a very long time. The same medicines at the same doseages, never really increasing the doseage etc .

If you can be upfront with your doctor , and the doctor is a good doctor I think that you will mesh well.

I know that psychiatrists can prescribe more than one month of medicine but are hesitant to do so especially if you're prescribed other medications.

My last doctor Originally if i was sick would phone the meds in. The same doctor also was on a program where i was able to get them in the mail from the company and i would either pick them up at the post office or at his office lol

wouldn't prescribe more than one month but allowed me to come in when i ran out rather than every month which was better than nothing .


im not sure if i got very lucky , or if i know what to say to them. so overall i believe it comes down to finding a doctor that you like and are able to truly talk to. my primary right now asks me so many questions hes a great doctor . i have had to see him a few times recently because i am having severe nerve pain from all of my teeth being messed up. this past year i got 10+ root canals, implants, extracts, and more and im not feeling very well especially whenall of this effects my neck and jaw pain ialready had

after i got a sinus lift i got severe sinus infection
and all the taste in my mouth changed and im still having problems and its been over 7 months lol.

sometimes also finding a new primary doctor that can help you instead of seeing a psychiatrist, pain doctor, etc can be way more helpful if hes willing to help you .

 

[infamousryan]

I understand where youall are coming from though ;

when i was younger i saw so many jerk doctors that would slam seroquel boxes on the table and not help you :|

like 16 years ago, when i was a teenager,
can you imagine going into the doctors office and telling him that seroquel doesn't help you, then he slaps down the boxes on the table and says thats all hes prescribing lol

not only do you not get any relief but its like a slap in your face and you drive a few hours there and a few hours back for nothing.
Which is possibly where calling and asking the doc beforehand if he can handle your case might be helpful as i am sure it doesn't necessarily hurt.

There has been plenty of great doctors though inbetween

It seems like there are some psychiatrists that only prescribe what the marketers want them to sell i.e. seroquel and then theres psychiatrists that actually want to help. I know for a fact that the Dr with the seroquel didn't listen to anything that i said to him lol ......




Honestly i do not know that much about telemedicine but my experience so far is good for me .
More convenient

 

[jaders]

I understand where youall are coming from though ;

when i was younger i saw so many jerk doctors that would slam seroquel boxes on the table and not help you :|

like 16 years ago, when i was a teenager,
can you imagine going into the doctors office and telling him that seroquel doesn't help you, then he slaps down the boxes on the table and says thats all hes prescribing lol

not only do you not get any relief but its like a slap in your face and you drive a few hours there and a few hours back for nothing.
Which is possibly where calling and asking the doc beforehand if he can handle your case might be helpful as i am sure it doesn't necessarily hurt.

There has been plenty of great doctors though inbetween

It seems like there are some psychiatrists that only prescribe what the marketers want them to sell i.e. seroquel and then theres psychiatrists that actually want to help. I know for a fact that the Dr with the seroquel didn't listen to anything that i said to him lol ......




Honestly i do not know that much about telemedicine but my experience so far is good for me .
More convenient

All I know is that it's refreshing to come across someone who seems to have caring doctors that actually aren't afraid to prescribe needed meds for quality of life. I'm definitely very happy for you! 👏

 

[bigmomma78]

They refused my 81 year old mother who never asks for meds with a compression fracture pain meds. Nobody will give them out anymore. Not even to a little old lady with zero addiction issues and bones falling apart. What a sorry state of affairs this world has become

 

[jaders]

They refused my 81 year old mother who never asks for meds with a compression fracture pain meds. Nobody will give them out anymore. Not even to a little old lady with zero addiction issues and bones falling apart. What a sorry state of affairs this world has become

Have you tried to get her on palliative care? That’s when you’re not on hospice but you emphasize comfort care? I know they’re stingy but I haven’t heard of an 81 year old not being able to get any pain medicine at all? 😱

It’s nuts for sure. I’m so sorry to read this…

 

[H20shed65]

They refused my 81 year old mother who never asks for meds with a compression fracture pain meds. Nobody will give them out anymore. Not even to a little old lady with zero addiction issues and bones falling apart. What a sorry state of affairs this world has become

In my experience, clinicians are often afraid to RX opioids to seniors out of a very real fear they could suffer a fall, which, depending on the general health of your mom, often results in broken bones, or God forbid, a broken hip. Unfortunately, a broken hip in patients over age 70 is more often than not, a death sentence.

You might try asking the provider why they‘re hesitant to Rx a limited supply of opioids, and if they mention potential falls, advise them you have a plan in place to prevent such incidents by assuring you, or another adult, will be nearby - at all times - while she is taking the pain medication. Assure the provider your mom will use some type ambulatory assistance device ( e.g., a cane, walker, etc. ) when she is walking.

So sorry your poor mom is suffering. Good luck and be well. 😎

 

[Grindselector]

I don’t think you have to worry too much, usually a visit (rare as they are) for such a small amount would be to gather info on the vendor. When a bunch of visits happened a while back (CR) it was to gather evidence on shipper and I don’t think any recipients were snagged.

 

[SoAndSo]

Geez Leweeeeeze!! They arent doing controlled delivery on 100 tram first of all, but more importantly than that....YOU. control the outcome of a controlled delivery. Speaking from experience, if the package isnt in your possession then it isnt yours yet.... regardless of who its addressed to. You didnt order anything right? Right. You don't know what that package contains right? nope, I have no clue. And don't dare let them transfer it from their hands to yours. In this instance the "possession is 9/10ths of the law" thing works in your favor. Its not in your possession then its not yours. Simple as that.

If you want the truth, they arent really after the buyer.... they want the supplier and on upwards on the chain and you are the only known link to that for them. So when in this situation, ignore the threats, deny and reduse the hand delivered package, and dont let them scare or intimidate you into snitching out the supplier. You though my dear, are safe.

 

[jaders]

They refused my 81 year old mother who never asks for meds with a compression fracture pain meds. Nobody will give them out anymore. Not even to a little old lady with zero addiction issues and bones falling apart. What a sorry state of affairs this world has become

In my experience, clinicians are often afraid to RX opioids to seniors out of a very real fear they could suffer a fall, which, depending on the general health of your mom, often results in broken bones, or God forbid, a broken hip. Unfortunately, a broken hip in patients over age 70 is more often than not, a death sentence.

You might try asking the provider why they‘re hesitant to Rx a limited supply of opioids, and if they mention potential falls, advise them you have a plan in place to prevent such incidents by assuring you, or another adult, will be nearby - at all times - while she is taking the pain medication. Assure the provider your mom will use some type ambulatory assistance device ( e.g., a cane, walker, etc. ) when she is walking.

So sorry your poor mom is suffering. Good luck and be well. 😎

I know that’s true about the fear of falling, but I’ve worked for two elderly folks who were falling due to a lack of pain control. Lack of sleep from pain was affecting one a great deal, and the other one fell repeatedly from his sciatica being uncontrolled. Both went on hospice to finally get decent help.

But I think you’re right about assuring them that there’s some plan or help to deal with this risk.

Another older friend of mine is recovering from Covid and is having coughing fits so bad that he starts gagging. Getting very little sleep of course. Went to the doctor who gave him NO cough syrup, just another inhaler.

It’s just cannot stand how ridiculous this has all become. 😔

 

[H20shed65]

@jaders

Completely agree. It is not my practice to deny patients opioids where appropriate, but I practice in the Hospice & Palliative field, so we’re practically immune from overprescribing oversight, at least at the federal level. I was just trying to offer some insight on why a healthcare provider might be reluctant to Rx narcotics to a geriatric patient. 😎

 

[jaders]

@jaders

Completely agree. It is not my practice to deny patients opioids where appropriate, but I practice in the Hospice & Palliative field, so we’re practically immune from overprescribing oversight, at least at the federal level. I was just trying to offer some insight on why a healthcare provider might be reluctant to Rx narcotics to a geriatric patient. 😎

You wish they would just come out and say that tho too. Like - “there are some possibly helpful pain medicines I could prescribe but the risk of falling is a real concern and that’s why I don’t like to do that without a lot of caution.” Just have the dang dialog. By not even mentioning them, it just looks like pain management isn’t even an option at all. It’s like it’s all on the patient to practically beg and if you do beg (or just ask), then you look like you’re drug seeking. ☹️

 

[Kermit S]

Geez Leweeeeeze!! They arent doing controlled delivery on 100 tram first of all, but more importantly than that....YOU. control the outcome of a controlled delivery. Speaking from experience, if the package isnt in your possession then it isnt yours yet.... regardless of who its addressed to. You didnt order anything right? Right. You don't know what that package contains right? nope, I have no clue. And don't dare let them transfer it from their hands to yours. In this instance the "possession is 9/10ths of the law" thing works in your favor. Its not in your possession then its not yours. Simple as that.

If you want the truth, they arent really after the buyer.... they want the supplier and on upwards on the chain and you are the only known link to that for them. So when in this situation, ignore the threats, deny and reduse the hand delivered package, and dont let them scare or intimidate you into snitching out the supplier. You though my dear, are safe.

Season 4 Episode 7 of "To Catch a Smuggler" touched on this very thing. Delivered the package and waited for it to be opened before they moved in.

 

[SoAndSo]

@Kermit S over that small of quantity of some Tramsdol? Thats crazy. I've had packs in the thousands get me nothing but a love letter.

 

[FTLsloth]

Nowadays they can use gps/rf trackers in the packages in a lot of states so they don't even have to physically hand the package over to you. They put the tracker in the pack and it will show them when you've taken it in the house and then when you have opened the package.

 

[Kermit S]

@Kermit S over that small of quantity of some Tramsdol? Thats crazy. I've had packs in the thousands get me nothing but a love letter.

Sorry about that ... it was a controlled delivery of MDMA, not tramadol

 

[calgal99]

Nowadays they can use gps/rf trackers in the packages in a lot of states so they don't even have to physically hand the package over to you. They put the tracker in the pack and it will show them when you've taken it in the house and then when you have opened the package.

@FTLsloth wow, yeah, I thought about that around 18 months ago, probably during a Pangea action. One thing I did, was to take a pkg and let it sit in a safe ( a literal safe, lead-lined sides etc.) for several months, before I even opened the shipping package. I figured that would be time enough for any tracker to run out of battery. TOTALLY non-scientific, but I thought it was kind of funny, so I did it!

 

[weezy1966]

They refused my 81 year old mother who never asks for meds with a compression fracture pain meds. Nobody will give them out anymore. Not even to a little old lady with zero addiction issues and bones falling apart. What a sorry state of affairs this world has become

This makes me SO MAD!

 

[SoAndSo]

@Kermit S over that small of quantity of some Tramsdol? Thats crazy. I've had packs in the thousands get me nothing but a love letter.

Sorry about that ... it was a controlled delivery of MDMA, not tramadol

Yeah MDMA and they may want to have a chat. Lol. I had a pack of that get taken I think by the postman or a very happy neighbor because it showed as delivered but it wasn't delivered to me. I don't know where it went and it was a good bit of the stuff. Pissed me off.

 

[Jen38]

@calgal99 I've been told that opening it underwater can work. You can also open it in a public mall/ restroom for example, and leave the packaging with tracking in the trash there. It truly makes me sick to see what a police state this country has become. The $$$ that is given to government organizations like the dea "funding" is outrageous. Last year 40+ Dea top dogs became executives at pharmaceutical companies. I guess making it illegal to buy meds from other countries was for our own good though, not pharma's or dea's. (Sarcasm)

 

[Jen38]

@bigmomma78 a big problem is the "lawsuit happy" country we have become. We never should have allowed the exorbant lawsuits and lawyers to control our medical system. Some years ago doctors were penalized for not prescribing enough painkillers and treating pain as a disease. Now doctors are being blamed for the opiate crisis since they freely prescribed painkillers. (this opioid crisis that coincided with the aphgan war and cheap heroin our gov. flooded our streets with). Fentanol is now the big $$ so if course we dumped Afganistan.