How risky is it to buy b*nzos online, ie legally

[Juju62861]

Benzos are schedule IV in the US so they're not really something I'd worry about personally. They're focused on the sellers of hard opioids/fent mostly, which are schedule II.

You would think they are Sch II the way the docs treat them. It's hard to get them prescribed in the US I think.

That said, they still shouldn’t be gate keeping the way they are. Simply have patients sign liability waivers.

 

[Juju62861]

Thanks for all your thoughts/ opinions.
I still think there is an element of risk legally, but agree as long as not buying stupid amounts, they are more likely to go after suppliers.
class C in the UK, no personal use amount is recognised in the UK.....
it's all a bit risky that along with possible bunk meds, makes me question why I still do this.....

Just make sure you’re going through a reputable vendor or at least getting test strips for fentanyl. Also; might not be a bad idea to have someone waiting nearby w/naloxone the first time you take it just in case

 

[Juju62861]

I have never heard of anyone being arrested for ordering reasonable amounts of meds like bensoes or trams online. I have heard of or know of people who have had a visit from their friendly law enforcement person and getting a lecture and an unofficial slap on the hand. But if a person orders what some official type person considers an excessive amount, that person then is examined closely for possible distribution and may get a serious visit that requires a lawyer. I know of one person who was ordering excessive amounts and was using a PO box, who has now vanished and who did not benefit from having a lawyer. With the constant possibility of seizures, it is tempting to try to order large amounts to stock up. Its just one of life's quandaries---damned if you do and dammed if you don't

The weird thing is that trams have all but dried up online. Even benzos have, but hardcore pks are still easy peasy to find..

 

[Juju62861]

Well, technically it's legal to import prescription meds for your own or your household's use - as long as it's not stupid amounts (more than about 3 months worth) which could get you done for dealing. Vet meds are treating more striclty and if you import a brand that is not licensed in the UK (even if the ingredients are exaclty the same as one that is), Customs will seize it (if they notice).

Actually anything that is controlled - such as benzodiazepines - are not legal to import even with a so-called prescription and will be seized if customs happens to find yours. As far as prosecuting anyone for it, that is highly highly unlikely unless, as other folks said, you are purchasing amounts that indicate possible distribution.

There is no way they're going to make a case, due to the cost, to prosecute someone for a couple hundred xanax. However the biggest thing you should ALWAYS remember is that if law enforcement ever were to come to your door you absolutely must not talk to them. All you do is say you're uncomfortable talking to law enforcement without a lawyer present. And stick to that. The one person I know who was prosecuted over some pain medicine (got some probation) made the mistake of admitting to purchasing them. Even this person's own public defender told them that if not admitted to, no case would've been made.

They did with rush limbaugh (sp?) but I think that was to make a point of him all those years ago…

 

[Juju62861]

Well, technically it's legal to import prescription meds for your own or your household's use - as long as it's not stupid amounts (more than about 3 months worth) which could get you done for dealing. Vet meds are treating more striclty and if you import a brand that is not licensed in the UK (even if the ingredients are exaclty the same as one that is), Customs will seize it (if they notice).

Actually anything that is controlled - such as benzodiazepines - are not legal to import even with a so-called prescription and will be seized if customs happens to find yours. As far as prosecuting anyone for it, that is highly highly unlikely unless, as other folks said, you are purchasing amounts that indicate possible distribution.

There is no way they're going to make a case, due to the cost, to prosecute someone for a couple hundred xanax. However the biggest thing you should ALWAYS remember is that if law enforcement ever were to come to your door you absolutely must not talk to them. All you do is say you're uncomfortable talking to law enforcement without a lawyer present. And stick to that. The one person I know who was prosecuted over some pain medicine (got some probation) made the mistake of admitting to purchasing them. Even this person's own public defender told them that if not admitted to, no case would've been made.

This! I can’t believe the amount of people that thinks it’s legal. Yeah, it should be; as it’s my health and not the governments, but Just as w/abortions and weed- they need their greedy hands in all.

 

[jaders]

Well, technically it's legal to import prescription meds for your own or your household's use - as long as it's not stupid amounts (more than about 3 months worth) which could get you done for dealing. Vet meds are treating more striclty and if you import a brand that is not licensed in the UK (even if the ingredients are exaclty the same as one that is), Customs will seize it (if they notice).

Actually anything that is controlled - such as benzodiazepines - are not legal to import even with a so-called prescription and will be seized if customs happens to find yours. As far as prosecuting anyone for it, that is highly highly unlikely unless, as other folks said, you are purchasing amounts that indicate possible distribution.

There is no way they're going to make a case, due to the cost, to prosecute someone for a couple hundred xanax. However the biggest thing you should ALWAYS remember is that if law enforcement ever were to come to your door you absolutely must not talk to them. All you do is say you're uncomfortable talking to law enforcement without a lawyer present. And stick to that. The one person I know who was prosecuted over some pain medicine (got some probation) made the mistake of admitting to purchasing them. Even this person's own public defender told them that if not admitted to, no case would've been made.

This! I can’t believe the amount of people that thinks it’s legal. Yeah, it should be; as it’s my health and not the governments, but Just as w/abortions and weed- they need their greedy hands in all.

I’m not sure it’s greed - just misguided thinking that somehow we “belong” to them and so they get to make these choices for us. It’s such BS…

 

[jaders]

I have never heard of anyone being arrested for ordering reasonable amounts of meds like bensoes or trams online. I have heard of or know of people who have had a visit from their friendly law enforcement person and getting a lecture and an unofficial slap on the hand. But if a person orders what some official type person considers an excessive amount, that person then is examined closely for possible distribution and may get a serious visit that requires a lawyer. I know of one person who was ordering excessive amounts and was using a PO box, who has now vanished and who did not benefit from having a lawyer. With the constant possibility of seizures, it is tempting to try to order large amounts to stock up. Its just one of life's quandaries---damned if you do and dammed if you don't

The weird thing is that trams have all but dried up online. Even benzos have, but hardcore pks are still easy peasy to find..

Makes sense doesn’t it? Get rid of all the safer stuff so that we are playing Russian roulette instead. Idiots…

 

[froce]

There is always a risk. Especially with scheduled drugs as that opens up DEA involvement.

That being said, just my opinion only, as long as it is a reasonable amount, the most likely enforcement action is a seizure and LL.

Big difference if they open the box and see 60 xanax vs 600.

 

[froce]

Benzos are schedule IV in the US so they're not really something I'd worry about personally. They're focused on the sellers of hard opioids/fent mostly, which are schedule II.

You would think they are Sch II the way the docs treat them. It's hard to get them prescribed in the US I think.

Yeah had to look them up first because I thought it was possible they'd be schedule II.

No benzos are schedule 2 in the USA. Some barbiturates are scheduled 2, but most are 3 and a few are 4.

Xanax, Valium, Klonopin, Ativan are schedule IV

https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/orangebook/c_cs_alpha.pdf

 

[Babygoats]

I used to be more scared about getting in trouble. I guess experience over the years has made me less anxious about it. I do know there is always a risk and I don't forget that.

 

[BMC24]

As far as I know the bobby (po-po) are not going to come around and harass you but typically like other countries there is a chance of seizure and customs blocking shipments which sucks, but is part of the game. Not sure if anyone has received "love letters" I know I have not at any stage. As ever your mileage may vary!

 

[jaders]

As far as I know the bobby (po-po) are not going to come around and harass you but typically like other countries there is a chance of seizure and customs blocking shipments which sucks, but is part of the game. Not sure if anyone has received "love letters" I know I have not at any stage. As ever your mileage may vary!

Whoa! You're saying you've never had a LL? I think pretty much everyone here who's been doing this for any length of time has gotten at least one. (I'm sad to say I've had more than my fair share when things on the west coast went into full fascist mode.)

I'm always impressed and envious of folks who haven't had any. That's some darn good luck, imho...

 

[BMC24]

Well Im not in your neck of the woods I dare say. There are probably an abundance of states out there where LL's are commonplace I just happened to dodge them when I was in the USA. Down in the far south it seems less occurence but your mileage may vary as ever

 

[Blues]

Just wondering if anyone has been or knows of anyone actually being charged by the police/ law for buying the likes of b*nzos online?
Wondering how much of a risk it actually is.....
Opinions/ discuss....?
Something else I'm anxious about.....

Only had one LL and that was it. But that a good few years ago now not had any luck with vendors recently though. So I don't know what it's like nowadays

 

[BMC24]

Not to worry about LL's, they are a means of dissuading people but I haven't seen any follow up action or the likes in all my years of patronage here under a few guises. Probably automated at this point and less to worry about than previously. I havent heard of anyone being in trouble for ordering b'n'zos strictly either

 

[tirorin]

Just wondering if anyone has been or knows of anyone actually being charged by the police/ law for buying the likes of b*nzos online?
Wondering how much of a risk it actually is.....
Opinions/ discuss....?
Something else I'm anxious about.....

I've never worried about it, I get all mine via RM and direct UK>UK so there are no borders for it to cross.
If you order large quantities from overseas, it may be more of a problem, but that's not an area I have experience in.

I'm more concerned with how legitimate the benzos are rather than any legal ramifications.

 

[tirorin]

As far as I know the bobby (po-po) are not going to come around and harass you but typically like other countries there is a chance of seizure and customs blocking shipments which sucks, but is part of the game. Not sure if anyone has received "love letters" I know I have not at any stage. As ever your mileage may vary!

Whoa! You're saying you've never had a LL? I think pretty much everyone here who's been doing this for any length of time has gotten at least one. (I'm sad to say I've had more than my fair share when things on the west coast went into full fascist mode.)

I'm always impressed and envious of folks who haven't had any. That's some darn good luck, imho...

I've never had one either. I like to think I'm careful though and I've been doing this for over ten years now. I don't want to speak to soon, but I feel very lucky!

 

[nomis3]

They are schedule IV, sure, but they are still closely monitored and I really haven't met many people who've used IOPs for benzos or z class drugs and haven't at some point gotten LLs. If you have been for a long time and didn't you are super lucky.

Benzos are schedule IV in the US so they're not really something I'd worry about personally. They're focused on the sellers of hard opioids/fent mostly, which are schedule II.

You would think they are Sch II the way the docs treat them. It's hard to get them prescribed in the US I think.

Yeah had to look them up first because I thought it was possible they'd be schedule II.

No benzos are schedule 2 in the USA. Some barbiturates are scheduled 2, but most are 3 and a few are 4.

Xanax, Valium, Klonopin, Ativan are schedule IV

https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/orangebook/c_cs_alpha.pdf

 

[kje99]

Just wondering if anyone has been or knows of anyone actually being charged by the police/ law for buying the likes of b*nzos online?
Wondering how much of a risk it actually is.....
Opinions/ discuss....?
Something else I'm anxious about.....

I've never worried about it, I get all mine via RM and direct UK>UK so there are no borders for it to cross.
If you order large quantities from overseas, it may be more of a problem, but that's not an area I have experience in.

I'm more concerned with how legitimate the benzos are rather than any legal ramifications.

It's actually illegal to buy UK prescription meds in the UK without a UK prescription (private or NHS), but not to import them" (unless class C or worse - which includes things like DHEA!!!) See Drugs licensing. Mine just say uncontrolled pharmaceuticals (or something like that) and I don't think the parcel has ever been opened.

 

[nomis3]

As far as I know the bobby (po-po) are not going to come around and harass you but typically like other countries there is a chance of seizure and customs blocking shipments which sucks, but is part of the game. Not sure if anyone has received "love letters" I know I have not at any stage. As ever your mileage may vary!

I think it kind of depends where you live, if you are in the US. If you are in a big city with huge problems like significant violent crime, high robbery rates, etc, no the local police are pretty darn unlikely to come looking for someone for an ll on a schedule 4. Though they might on a Schedule 2. But if you live in a more rural area, and I have, it changes, and I think the risk is higiher of police looking into an LL that was sent. Just my opinion.