Should PR username be given to online pharmacies?

[G-one]

What would be the point of providing the PR username to a vendor? Wouldn't we be providing name and other details for shipping, what would a vendor with PR username information? Sounds strange.

Any lonstanding/legitimate vendors usually have their own ways to validate a customer before allowing them to place any significant order. (Except for one of our Senior Site vendors, who require quite a bit of upfront info to be registered, but that's not this issue....)

I, personally, would *never* give my PR username to a vendor up front - it seems hinky - is the vendor (or a surrogate) hanging around here, and monitoring members' comments?? They shouldn't be. It's also against Forum rules, for all extents and purposes.

And yeah, you eventually give a vendor your info for ordering purposes when you order from them, so what other reason would they need, to check your posting history? Either you're a good customer, or you're not, and they will find that out for themselves. Whatever you post on PR has nothing to do with that, and any vendor who wants to screen you based on your comments here, can go fuck themselves all the way off to fuckistan....

This "show me your username/posting history BS" comes in large part from the pay-to-play DBG Forum where they play these "how good a member are you?" games, and they have a nasty history of their own (pay to play, and vendors who pay to get boosted), and we don't need their crap over here at PR.

[Edit - yeah, I know there are PR members who also belong to/pay for membership at DBG and/or other fora. More power to them, and I hope they get what they pay for. But that is not how PR works. So you can join other groups besides this one, but that does not mean that another place is better than PR!)

Totally agree with this post 100%,vendor has no reason to access Pr for anything.

I had one email vendor who wanted to see my postings on PR, I gave them my username but didn't order anything after that. They apparently checked out the forum before sending me a list of items they carried. I didn't think anything of it.

 

[mallaidh]

What would be the point of providing the PR username to a vendor? Wouldn't we be providing name and other details for shipping, what would a vendor with PR username information? Sounds strange.

Any lonstanding/legitimate vendors usually have their own ways to validate a customer before allowing them to place any significant order. (Except for one of our Senior Site vendors, who require quite a bit of upfront info to be registered, but that's not this issue....)

I, personally, would *never* give my PR username to a vendor up front - it seems hinky - is the vendor (or a surrogate) hanging around here, and monitoring members' comments?? They shouldn't be. It's also against Forum rules, for all extents and purposes.

And yeah, you eventually give a vendor your info for ordering purposes when you order from them, so what other reason would they need, to check your posting history? Either you're a good customer, or you're not, and they will find that out for themselves. Whatever you post on PR has nothing to do with that, and any vendor who wants to screen you based on your comments here, can go fuck themselves all the way off to fuckistan....

This "show me your username/posting history BS" comes in large part from the pay-to-play DBG Forum where they play these "how good a member are you?" games, and they have a nasty history of their own (pay to play, and vendors who pay to get boosted), and we don't need their crap over here at PR.

[Edit - yeah, I know there are PR members who also belong to/pay for membership at DBG and/or other fora. More power to them, and I hope they get what they pay for. But that is not how PR works. So you can join other groups besides this one, but that does not mean that another place is better than PR!)

Totally agree with this post 100%,vendor has no reason to access Pr for anything.

I had one email vendor who wanted to see my postings on PR, I gave them my username but didn't order anything after that. They apparently checked out the forum before sending me a list of items they carried. I didn't think anything of it.

Seems like everyone is watching us

 

[Chancer]

This "show me your username/posting history BS" comes in large part from the pay-to-play DBG Forum where they play these "how good a member are you?" games, and they have a nasty history of their own (pay to play, and vendors who pay to get boosted), and we don't need their crap over here at PR.

Completely agree, it's a way to control what you say, it drastically minimises your ability to honestly critique a vendor. One minute you post because an order took too long, the next the vendor cuts you off for the 'negative' comment.

It allows the vendors rather than the PR mods/members to run this forum as an honest community. It's bad enough with trolls without making ourselves an even more direct target. Definitely a hard pass from me, I don't even use vendors that ask for personal details like DOB or ID etc.

 

[Snoopz]

yes i refuse to support vendors who demand we leave reviews on forums or any kind of ID requirements thats out of the question why have payment methods like btc if you want my freaking ID i think some vendors are on there own products cause thats just crazyness hahahaha

 

[mallaidh]

What would be the point of providing the PR username to a vendor? Wouldn't we be providing name and other details for shipping, what would a vendor with PR username information? Sounds strange.

Any lonstanding/legitimate vendors usually have their own ways to validate a customer before allowing them to place any significant order. (Except for one of our Senior Site vendors, who require quite a bit of upfront info to be registered, but that's not this issue....)

I, personally, would *never* give my PR username to a vendor up front - it seems hinky - is the vendor (or a surrogate) hanging around here, and monitoring members' comments?? They shouldn't be. It's also against Forum rules, for all extents and purposes.

And yeah, you eventually give a vendor your info for ordering purposes when you order from them, so what other reason would they need, to check your posting history? Either you're a good customer, or you're not, and they will find that out for themselves. Whatever you post on PR has nothing to do with that, and any vendor who wants to screen you based on your comments here, can go fuck themselves all the way off to fuckistan....

This "show me your username/posting history BS" comes in large part from the pay-to-play DBG Forum where they play these "how good a member are you?" games, and they have a nasty history of their own (pay to play, and vendors who pay to get boosted), and we don't need their crap over here at PR.

[Edit - yeah, I know there are PR members who also belong to/pay for membership at DBG and/or other fora. More power to them, and I hope they get what they pay for. But that is not how PR works. So you can join other groups besides this one, but that does not mean that another place is better than PR!)

Hard no on giving the vendors any info up front. It's not like we're ordering from Macy's with the onus on them to track a lost package or allowing a refund for a bad product. These vendors get our money up front and we are the ones taking the chance that we get what we ordered.

 

[calgal99]

@mallaidh, there are a couple of vendors who require confirmation of your identity before allowing you to even see their products, much less to order. At least one (there have been more, but right now just one that I can think of, with which I have dealt for years; they are in the Sr. section) is a legit international vendor which also operates a legitimate pharmacy in their COO, and requires the same info that any US pharmacy would require of their customers. (Those of us who chose to do business with them understood the tradeoffs, and that this was an attempt to keep the same kind of records on their mail customers that they keep of their local customers. If they are ever "busted" they might have some claim of protection by keeping equivalent customer records. Maybe. Unlikely, but maybe.) And after all this time, I am unaware of that vendor ever having abused the information that I provided to them. Note that they do not ask for any PR forum info, and I don't think they even monitor this place.

My thought process was that, with this vendor, they will end up with most of this info if I place an order, and all that I've added is one level of verification that I am actually the customer placing the order. You are equally entitled to your "hard no" position. OTOH, I would not have given this info to a sketchier vendor. So , YMMV. That's a lot of why it's important to read, read read as much as you can, to find out some history about long-time vendors, even if their policies have changed over time.

 

[mallaidh]

@calgal99 Yeh, you're right about the trade off. If the vendor is recommended in the senior section and others can verify he's legit, I would consider. It's a vendor who asks for info before I even know his info is the one who would sketch me out. I should hop over to the senior section and see if I can find this guy.

 

[mallaidh]

@mallaidh, there are a couple of vendors who require confirmation of your identity before allowing you to even see their products, much less to order. At least one (there have been more, but right now just one that I can think of, with which I have dealt for years; they are in the Sr. section) is a legit international vendor which also operates a legitimate pharmacy in their COO, and requires the same info that any US pharmacy would require of their customers. (Those of us who chose to do business with them understood the tradeoffs, and that this was an attempt to keep the same kind of records on their mail customers that they keep of their local customers. If they are ever "busted" they might have some claim of protection by keeping equivalent customer records. Maybe. Unlikely, but maybe.) And after all this time, I am unaware of that vendor ever having abused the information that I provided to them. Note that they do not ask for any PR forum info, and I don't think they even monitor this place.

My thought process was that, with this vendor, they will end up with most of this info if I place an order, and all that I've added is one level of verification that I am actually the customer placing the order. You are equally entitled to your "hard no" position. OTOH, I would not have given this info to a sketchier vendor. So , YMMV. That's a lot of why it's important to read, read read as much as you can, to find out some history about long-time vendors, even if their policies have changed over time.

Thanks calgal. I just searched for that vendor. Think I found it. Sort of. I had seen it cryptically being recommended and couldn't find it. When I asked for hints, someone messaged me and recommended another vendor. I went with them. It's been working out for me but I always like to keep a back. up. All this paypal bull*&%* has me nervous that these guys will get scared and run. Tried bitcoin and it's like brain surgery. It's way over my head.

 

[calgal99]

@mallaidh I'll send you a PM...

 

[superman11]

Hmmmm I haven't done so before, I do mention I'm happy to give good feedback

 

[Chancer]

@mallaidh I'll send you a PM...

Can you send me one too, pretty please 😁

 

[ned]

I'd also be happy to give positive review for supplier who provides good service.
Ethics should require that such Posters acknowledge is they were compensated.
In the Ham Radio world, dealers often provide products for review and other incentives to get the word out.

 

[Snoopz]

I'd also be happy to give positive review for supplier who provides good service.
Ethics should require that such Posters acknowledge is they were compensated.
In the Ham Radio world, dealers often provide products for review and other incentives to get the word out.

That would be considered shilling.. Your being incentivized with products to review and other .. yeah no Thats straight up shilling.

 

[ned]

IDK, not necessarily.
If the review is honest what harm could it cause?

 

[Snoopz]

IDK, not necessarily.
If the review is honest what harm could it cause?

Might wanna re read the rules lol

and the harm it could cause .. Not going to dive into that rabbit hole.

Shilling is bad and against the rules.

 

[ned]

OK I'll review that always good to take a second look at whatever.
My primary draw here are the Tracking threads.

 

[jaders]

IDK, not necessarily.
If the review is honest what harm could it cause?

Because a vendor might provide one or two people with “product” to get those good reviews, to then turn around and stiff the next ten folks who order, based on your “bought” review. 🤔.

Do you ever see scammy sites around the net that’ll have a bunch of glowing “reviews” on their site, hoping to convince folks to part with their hard earned money? Not much different except that now we’re relying on someone that we have some trust in. That’s why it’s shilling and not allowed.

Selling meds over the internet isn’t really quite like Amazon, or even the field you mentioned. The amount of demand coupled with the issues of legality make this arena pretty fraught with scammers. It’s bad enough when someone legitimately finds who they think are a good vendor and does recommend them, only to have things still go south. Usually the original poster feels crummy about it altho it’s just the nature of this pursuit and I certainly can’t blame anyone who tried to bring a new vendor forth in good faith.

Honestly @ned. I get the feeling that you haven’t been dealing with all the changes and the new challenges that have happened in the last few years, when it comes to buying meds online? Just a total guess based on your posts, but what used to be a relatively easy pursuit with lots of viable options, has become much more difficult and even dangerous (due to the fentanyl issue) along with the crackdown in customs.

It’s definitely a gauntlet to run for those of us who still choose to. 😏

 

[jaders]

IDK, not necessarily.
If the review is honest what harm could it cause?

Also want to say that there is an alternate forum called drug buyers guide that allows exactly what you’re talking about. In fact you can access all their info just by paying a fee (think it’s 20 bucks?), so no loss of status for not participating either.

However, not only is the info there at DBG suspect, because vendors are allowed, but you literally can get BANNED for providing honest information about a vendor.

So you definitely have choices….

 

[Chancer]

@ned That's a ban, shilling, we want/need honest reviews from people experiencing what we are, not people getting back handers.

 

[peppergirl]

After reading through this thread, nothing good would come of giving out your user name.