@cajunbulldog : Excellent observation ! Examples: Some USA generics, manipulate the 80/20 rule, (80% major ingredients of diaz, but a bigTo me valium is valium,generics can have good percent of active ing. to shitty percent of active ing.
That was a well spoken response. Since 2005 all of my meds have been presribed.I have ordered the occasional codeine product and rarely benzos. I mainly have a ear for support and research which helps me focus thru bipolar moods that can come out of nowhere.@cajunbulldog : Excellent observation ! Examples: Some USA generics, manipulate the 80/20 rule, (80% major ingredients of diaz, but a bigTo me valium is valium,generics can have good percent of active ing. to shitty percent of active ing.
YET, the remaining 20% of fillers & buffers, sometimes can seriously disrupt the bioavailability, (NOT the bioequivalence). As
proven, in the production, of another med, from the years 2012 to 2020, for dozens of lawsuits, for the ADD med Add*rall.
As proven, in the controversial FDA ratings, 16 or 17 different rating, (total) Also check out www.fiercepharma.com
More international examples:
A. Terapia (formerly of R*mania) once a above avg quality 10 mg diaz, but, after late 2006, a merger from a India pharma firm,
the quality gradually went down. Don't believe me? check out the 2022, GC / MS test results from public information on
www.wedinos.org ! Also, imho, beware of any generic mfg by Ranbaxy (India & USA divisions & AuroBindo Pharma (USA)
Wilshire Pharma (USA) & some divisions of Teva (world hdqtrs Israel) in select countries.
B. Actavis (United Kingdom & Scotland only) Ref: generic Diaz. 10 mg blue round tablet, embossed "C underscore DC" side 1
no embossment of other side, cleverly marketed in blisters, and a Actavis box, with a leaflet inside. vs. sold loose, or in tubs.
Phased out, & taken over by Accord of UK, after year 2017. YET, still marketed, on the street, and/or in some IOP UK based
pharmacies !!! Contents verified, many times, "one is NOT getting what one is paying for" from "no active ingredients" to
either a combo of diaz mixed with bromazepam, vs. a mix of a designer chemical, such as, Flualprazolam, with or without
some diaz, vs. another "designer benzo" (bad news IMHO). the boxes are very deceptive, looks like the real thing. Give a
way, is the embossment, abandoned by "Accord" in the UK, who only mfg, the 5 mg. & the 2 mg, but NO more 10 mg, in
nearly 4 or 5 years now !! Again, check out Wedinos.org, (Bangor, Wales, or, DrugsData.org, USA GC/MS lab in CA. (2022)
mailed in samples, or further back several years, "public information" @cajunbulldog, or any other PR members !!! I
cannot prove it, but, imho, this scam began with Air Mail Group, specifically, Air Mail Chemist, in year 2012 with receiving
some botched Roche Riv*tril 2 mg, as the colors of box were way off, & pills did not work, & even then, the diaz were
super weak, 18 months, Air Mail Chemist were in business, + they twice tried to rip me off, on a expensive cruise, later,
on a expensive Laptop purchased in Miami, to ship to Paris Fr, & expensive bicycles, inside of the UK, likely from a
disgruntled employee. IDK for sure, but my cr cd fraud dept. took care of me ! (Including UK mfg Actavis Diaz). Also
Martindale dihydr* were imho underdosed, or bunk). The Eastern Europe Mundi were far superior from another vendor.
for dihydr* pm's. (R*mania) & Mundi 0*y (same country). 2013 to 2018).
In Air Mail Group, defense, the original Air Mail Pharmacy (Germany) were good to me 2008 & 2009, to the end, in
summer of 2014.
C. watch out for Diaz from India, (like legit India Diaz mfg Abbott Healthcare) but, in year 2017, over 50+ small India mom
& pop versions of diaz, imho "risky business". 22 protected marketing names are in the 2020 Martindale, all facilities
inspected, BUT, not the majority of the other alleged mfg of the Diaz. Note: in the year 2010 there were nearly 80
versions of Diaz, overwhelming NOT in the Martindale for years 2008 or 2011. (for country of India ! )
D. Sri Lanka Diaz, historically very good quality, but, not any more, for the majority of generic Sri Lanka diaz, don't believe me?
Again, check out the bona fide Lab, in Bangor, Wales ! www.wedinos.org !! Those diaz tabs have gone down hill now for
2 or 3 years + imho. Also, check out www.DrugsData.org (Sacramento CA) formerly, EctasyData.org !!
E. Mexican Diaz, including Roche & several others, believe me from personal experience, (2012/ 2014/ 2016, even Roche
V*lium, are also heavily counterfeited, in the past 10 years. Been there, done that. Such as in PVR, or Cabo San Lucas,
either get a referral, and/or, a local, best for a reliable MX M.D. to verify which pharmacia has the real Roche V's. Tourist
resorts, are imho, high risk, without, doing some research, my friend ! that is why i like the holiograms & prisims,sp? for
Toluca MX manufactured Roche V-10mg's. You can call the publicity director at the Roche Toluca plant in MX to verify the
Bin numbers, serial numbers, etc. as I did so, once, from Los Cabos. (on one of 4 trips to MX) I give no advise, but
I learned the hard way, next time, if I travel to MX, I will get a MX M.D, + a referral, from a MX big hotel resort. SY
vendors (for me) can be risky, just my 2 cents worth, especially since the Pandemic. Night & Day since going to MX
1990's, & early post 9/11, early 21st century. (Nogales by car, to a cruise to Cozumel) from Miami FL..
Now, Fent scares me, rarely found in a benz*, but one never knows, but in pm's, very scary to me.
F. Generic Diaz from either Amsterdam, or, in the Caribbean (St. Marteen) are excellent quality, imported from the
Netherlands, at least about 5 years ago. Roche Val's from Pakistan, are NOT licensed by Roche, (Switzerland) but
the Martin Dow Roche look a likes are manufactured at the old Roche Karachi estate, where the presses were left
behind, almost 10 years ago; had a GC/MS test run on them, way back & the test results showed 7.2 mg of legit
diaz in the blue 10 mg of Martin Dow embossed Roche V 10's. (about 7+ years ago).
formulation for pure Diaz in the 10 mg blue Roche pills. (thus a bit weak, but will do, (back in the year 2015/2016).
G. Last audit from Martindale, the following countries, just before the worldwide pandemic, the following countries,
discontinued Roche being the sole mfg of Roche Vali*m: As of Feb 2020, 40th edt of Martindale, London UK
Finland
Germany (Grenzach-Wylan Roche Pharma AG Plant) on the Rhine River
Indonesia
Ireland
H. Thailand (Roche Vali*m removed from the market, per audit from Martindale February 2014) 38th edition
I. Denmark (Roche Vali*m removed from the market, per audit from Martindale February 2011) 37th edition
Thanks again, @cajunbulldog & @Heinz for the "like" & any other PR members
The Galenika Bensedin are different. It's almost as if you have to know what to look for to feel them. I bought 900 of them. 600 with the old packaging, 300 with the new.I love Kasalol but Galenka's Diaz, purchased 3 times from different Serbian vendors is so worthless that even after taking 6 within 3 hours I felt nothing. It's probably all talc.
Dynamite od from the country of origin.These Bensedin I got years ago were top notch quality and the strongest/best Diaz I had tried but I received some not to long ago and they are bunk!!! Makes me wonder about the generics and the changes of the packaging Etc.
Yes you are absolutely right as unfortunately more brands are getting messed with fillers Etc.Dynamite od from the country of origin.These Bensedin I got years ago were top notch quality and the strongest/best Diaz I had tried but I received some not to long ago and they are bunk!!! Makes me wonder about the generics and the changes of the packaging Etc.
Full of chalk if not
I'm pretty sure all three of them are in the UK so I'd highly doubt it. Curious to hear opinions on these too though
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