Strongest Diazepam on the market or that people have had?

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I'm still a fan of the galenika. Needed a fresh on while I was out of town.
 
Auperin > Actavis > TEVA > Almus > Crescent(shite!)
Not tried bensedin.
 
Diazepam used to work pretty well for me but the few times I tried it, it just didn't work as well. I may have just gotten a weak batch, I did get it from that guy from the name you can find looking up at the night sky. I just stay away now
 
Update (2019 +) Apaur*n mfg. Krka (Slovenia) found in Eastern Europe (CZ Republic, Serbia, Russia as Anaypnh) Slovenia, Bulgaria, 10mg. etc. Helex I/R 10 mg (Krka of Slovenia) & several Eastern European countries (too new to rate) imo. (not sure if Diaz or Alp) sorry. replacing Apaurin
Gewacalm (Austria)
India (Vali*m (only mfg by Abbott India) HTF (White color 10 mg, like former Roche licensed Nicolas Piramal (India) HTF
Italy (Vali*m mfg Roche)
South Africa (Betapam 5 mg only) (yellow) mfg Sun Pharma + Vali*m 10mg by Roche
Spain (V*lium mfg Roche)
Mexico (V*lium 10mg mfg Roche) by Mexican M.D RX only, with holiograms on blisters & tape 10 mg solid all the way through.
like all Non-USA Roche V*lium's) Holiograms on blisters & tape on Roche box (Mexico only 2013+to the present). Toluca plant
Mexico (IFAFonal) 10mg. (round). no embossment, plain yellow, mfg. Investigacion Farmaceutica, S.A. de CV (too new to rate)

"Super Quality" Historically for USA: Roche V*lium embossment "Roche 6" for 10 mg. 1963 /1975 embossed
simply "Vali*m 10, blue, solid all the way through, 5 mg yellow, 2 mg, white, (same embossments)
1976/77 to 1983/1984 (always blue from inception), final embossment change, approximately 1985/1986 USA only, the
infamous "cut-out V" (Mona Lisa look) same blue 10g, yellow cut out V for 5 mg, white cut out V 2 mg, same colors as
inception (from Leo Sternbach 1963). up to approximately 2011/2012+ (USA only), as far as I can tell. farmed out now USA
Switzerland by world headquarters, solid blue all the way through. 1960's to the at least 2020. + Accord (UK only 5mg & 2mg)
More quality di*zepam: see below
Just my 2 cents worth: Galenika (Bens*din (Eastern Europe only) white pill no embossments 10 mg. (if the real deals)
Also, Diaz*pam by mfg Kern, of Switzerland & the larger factory in Spain. (if they are the real deals). Just my 2 cents worth.
Beware of USA Watson Diazepam generics, especially in Western Europe, due to massive counterfeiting. Once a Grade A
USA generic, before Watson Pharma merged, around year 2013.

Note: As of February 2020, Vali*m Brand Name only marketed in only 17 countries in the modern industrialized world ***
Source: Martindale pg. 1125, Volume A, The Complete Drug Reference & online Medicines Complete (subscription only)
copyright 2020. Published by Pharmaceutical Press, on authority of the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain.
(for now since 1883, yes, over 139 years) ! * Roche continues to discontinue manufacturing "Vali*m" as Roche, and/or
sell their license, due to loss of market share + worldwide counterfeiting.

* some countries in Eastern Europe, such as Slovenia, Serbia, Slovakia, many Middle East Countries, all of Africa, except
South Africa, some SE Asia, (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Brutan, Bangladesh, scattered Pacific Islands, & many
Caribbean Islands, except St. Maartin. (all meds there imported from the Netherlands) which is in the Martindale.
are NOT included, + Azores, & Bermuda (Atlantic Ocean) many Central American countries, & South American countries,
also are NOT included, EXCEPT, the countries of Argentina, Brazil, Venezuela, ARE included. (43 Countries total are
included in the 2020 edition. Martindale only lists Brand Names only (protected tradenames), NO GENERICS. More
references: Truven Analytics (subscription only: online & Redbook (Subscription only: online) note: every expensive.

** Galenika (ethical pharmaceutical manufacturer) is my personal opinion, from personal experience & here say.
However, please use caution for counterfeit copies, unfortunately, in the here and now. (just saying). such as in the UK.

There may be others............bedtime for me. 1:30 AM EDT (USA) 0130 hrs -4GMT.
 
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To me valium is valium,generics can have good percent of active ing. to shitty percent of active ing.
@cajunbulldog : Excellent observation ! Examples: Some USA generics, manipulate the 80/20 rule, (80% major ingredients of diaz, but a big
YET, the remaining 20% of fillers & buffers, sometimes can seriously disrupt the bioavailability, (NOT the bioequivalence). As
proven, in the production, of another med, from the years 2012 to 2020, for dozens of lawsuits, for the ADD med Add*rall.
As proven, in the controversial FDA ratings, 16 or 17 different rating, (total) Also check out www.fiercepharma.com

More international examples:
A. Terapia (formerly of R*mania) once a above avg quality 10 mg diaz, but, after late 2006, a merger from a India pharma firm,
the quality gradually went down. Don't believe me? check out the 2022, GC / MS test results from public information on
www.wedinos.org ! Also, imho, beware of any generic mfg by Ranbaxy (India & USA divisions & AuroBindo Pharma (USA)
Wilshire Pharma (USA) & some divisions of Teva (world hdqtrs Israel) in select countries.

B. Actavis (United Kingdom & Scotland only) Ref: generic Diaz. 10 mg blue round tablet, embossed "C underscore DC" side 1
no embossment of other side, cleverly marketed in blisters, and a Actavis box, with a leaflet inside. vs. sold loose, or in tubs.
Phased out, & taken over by Accord of UK, after year 2017. YET, still marketed, on the street, and/or in some IOP UK based
pharmacies !!! Contents verified, many times, "one is NOT getting what one is paying for" from "no active ingredients" to
either a combo of diaz mixed with bromazepam, vs. a mix of a designer chemical, such as, Flualprazolam, with or without
some diaz, vs. another "designer benzo" (bad news IMHO). the boxes are very deceptive, looks like the real thing. Give a
way, is the embossment, abandoned by "Accord" in the UK, who only mfg, the 5 mg. & the 2 mg, but NO more 10 mg, in
nearly 4 or 5 years now !! Again, check out Wedinos.org, (Bangor, Wales, or, DrugsData.org, USA GC/MS lab in CA. (2022)
mailed in samples, or further back several years, "public information" @cajunbulldog, or any other PR members !!! I
cannot prove it, but, imho, this scam began with Air Mail Group, specifically, Air Mail Chemist, in year 2012 with receiving
some botched Roche Riv*tril 2 mg, as the colors of box were way off, & pills did not work, & even then, the diaz were
super weak, 18 months, Air Mail Chemist were in business, + they twice tried to rip me off, on a expensive cruise, later,
on a expensive Laptop purchased in Miami, to ship to Paris Fr, & expensive bicycles, inside of the UK, likely from a
disgruntled employee. IDK for sure, but my cr cd fraud dept. took care of me ! (Including UK mfg Actavis Diaz). Also
Martindale dihydr* were imho underdosed, or bunk). The Eastern Europe Mundi were far superior from another vendor.
for dihydr* pm's. (R*mania) & Mundi 0*y (same country). 2013 to 2018).

In Air Mail Group, defense, the original Air Mail Pharmacy (Germany) were good to me 2008 & 2009, to the end, in
summer of 2014.



C. watch out for Diaz from India, (like legit India Diaz mfg Abbott Healthcare) but, in year 2017, over 50+ small India mom
& pop versions of diaz, imho "risky business". 22 protected marketing names are in the 2020 Martindale, all facilities
inspected, BUT, not the majority of the other alleged mfg of the Diaz. Note: in the year 2010 there were nearly 80
versions of Diaz, overwhelming NOT in the Martindale for years 2008 or 2011. (for country of India ! )

D. Sri Lanka Diaz, historically very good quality, but, not any more, for the majority of generic Sri Lanka diaz, don't believe me?
Again, check out the bona fide Lab, in Bangor, Wales ! www.wedinos.org !! Those diaz tabs have gone down hill now for
2 or 3 years + imho. Also, check out www.DrugsData.org (Sacramento CA) formerly, EctasyData.org !!

E. Mexican Diaz, including Roche & several others, believe me from personal experience, (2012/ 2014/ 2016, even Roche
V*lium, are also heavily counterfeited, in the past 10 years. Been there, done that. Such as in PVR, or Cabo San Lucas,
either get a referral, and/or, a local, best for a reliable MX M.D. to verify which pharmacia has the real Roche V's. Tourist
resorts, are imho, high risk, without, doing some research, my friend ! that is why i like the holiograms & prisims,sp? for
Toluca MX manufactured Roche V-10mg's. You can call the publicity director at the Roche Toluca plant in MX to verify the
Bin numbers, serial numbers, etc. as I did so, once, from Los Cabos. (on one of 4 trips to MX) I give no advise, but
I learned the hard way, next time, if I travel to MX, I will get a MX M.D, + a referral, from a MX big hotel resort. SY
vendors (for me) can be risky, just my 2 cents worth, especially since the Pandemic. Night & Day since going to MX
1990's, & early post 9/11, early 21st century. (Nogales by car, to a cruise to Cozumel) from Miami FL..
Now, Fent scares me, rarely found in a benz*, but one never knows, but in pm's, very scary to me.

F. Generic Diaz from either Amsterdam, or, in the Caribbean (St. Marteen) are excellent quality, imported from the
Netherlands, at least about 5 years ago. Roche Val's from Pakistan, are NOT licensed by Roche, (Switzerland) but
the Martin Dow Roche look a likes are manufactured at the old Roche Karachi estate, where the presses were left
behind, almost 10 years ago; had a GC/MS test run on them, way back & the test results showed 7.2 mg of legit
diaz in the blue 10 mg of Martin Dow embossed Roche V 10's. (about 7+ years ago).
formulation for pure Diaz in the 10 mg blue Roche pills. (thus a bit weak, but will do, (back in the year 2015/2016).

G. Last audit from Martindale, the following countries, just before the worldwide pandemic, the following countries,
discontinued Roche being the sole mfg of Roche Vali*m: As of Feb 2020, 40th edt of Martindale, London UK
Finland
Germany (Grenzach-Wylan Roche Pharma AG Plant) on the Rhine River
Indonesia
Ireland

H. Thailand (Roche Vali*m removed from the market, per audit from Martindale February 2014) 38th edition

I. Denmark (Roche Vali*m removed from the market, per audit from Martindale February 2011) 37th edition

Thanks again, @cajunbulldog & @Heinz for the "like" & any other PR members
 
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To me valium is valium,generics can have good percent of active ing. to shitty percent of active ing.
@cajunbulldog : Excellent observation ! Examples: Some USA generics, manipulate the 80/20 rule, (80% major ingredients of diaz, but a big
YET, the remaining 20% of fillers & buffers, sometimes can seriously disrupt the bioavailability, (NOT the bioequivalence). As
proven, in the production, of another med, from the years 2012 to 2020, for dozens of lawsuits, for the ADD med Add*rall.
As proven, in the controversial FDA ratings, 16 or 17 different rating, (total) Also check out www.fiercepharma.com

More international examples:
A. Terapia (formerly of R*mania) once a above avg quality 10 mg diaz, but, after late 2006, a merger from a India pharma firm,
the quality gradually went down. Don't believe me? check out the 2022, GC / MS test results from public information on
www.wedinos.org ! Also, imho, beware of any generic mfg by Ranbaxy (India & USA divisions & AuroBindo Pharma (USA)
Wilshire Pharma (USA) & some divisions of Teva (world hdqtrs Israel) in select countries.

B. Actavis (United Kingdom & Scotland only) Ref: generic Diaz. 10 mg blue round tablet, embossed "C underscore DC" side 1
no embossment of other side, cleverly marketed in blisters, and a Actavis box, with a leaflet inside. vs. sold loose, or in tubs.
Phased out, & taken over by Accord of UK, after year 2017. YET, still marketed, on the street, and/or in some IOP UK based
pharmacies !!! Contents verified, many times, "one is NOT getting what one is paying for" from "no active ingredients" to
either a combo of diaz mixed with bromazepam, vs. a mix of a designer chemical, such as, Flualprazolam, with or without
some diaz, vs. another "designer benzo" (bad news IMHO). the boxes are very deceptive, looks like the real thing. Give a
way, is the embossment, abandoned by "Accord" in the UK, who only mfg, the 5 mg. & the 2 mg, but NO more 10 mg, in
nearly 4 or 5 years now !! Again, check out Wedinos.org, (Bangor, Wales, or, DrugsData.org, USA GC/MS lab in CA. (2022)
mailed in samples, or further back several years, "public information" @cajunbulldog, or any other PR members !!! I
cannot prove it, but, imho, this scam began with Air Mail Group, specifically, Air Mail Chemist, in year 2012 with receiving
some botched Roche Riv*tril 2 mg, as the colors of box were way off, & pills did not work, & even then, the diaz were
super weak, 18 months, Air Mail Chemist were in business, + they twice tried to rip me off, on a expensive cruise, later,
on a expensive Laptop purchased in Miami, to ship to Paris Fr, & expensive bicycles, inside of the UK, likely from a
disgruntled employee. IDK for sure, but my cr cd fraud dept. took care of me ! (Including UK mfg Actavis Diaz). Also
Martindale dihydr* were imho underdosed, or bunk). The Eastern Europe Mundi were far superior from another vendor.
for dihydr* pm's. (R*mania) & Mundi 0*y (same country). 2013 to 2018).

In Air Mail Group, defense, the original Air Mail Pharmacy (Germany) were good to me 2008 & 2009, to the end, in
summer of 2014.



C. watch out for Diaz from India, (like legit India Diaz mfg Abbott Healthcare) but, in year 2017, over 50+ small India mom
& pop versions of diaz, imho "risky business". 22 protected marketing names are in the 2020 Martindale, all facilities
inspected, BUT, not the majority of the other alleged mfg of the Diaz. Note: in the year 2010 there were nearly 80
versions of Diaz, overwhelming NOT in the Martindale for years 2008 or 2011. (for country of India ! )

D. Sri Lanka Diaz, historically very good quality, but, not any more, for the majority of generic Sri Lanka diaz, don't believe me?
Again, check out the bona fide Lab, in Bangor, Wales ! www.wedinos.org !! Those diaz tabs have gone down hill now for
2 or 3 years + imho. Also, check out www.DrugsData.org (Sacramento CA) formerly, EctasyData.org !!

E. Mexican Diaz, including Roche & several others, believe me from personal experience, (2012/ 2014/ 2016, even Roche
V*lium, are also heavily counterfeited, in the past 10 years. Been there, done that. Such as in PVR, or Cabo San Lucas,
either get a referral, and/or, a local, best for a reliable MX M.D. to verify which pharmacia has the real Roche V's. Tourist
resorts, are imho, high risk, without, doing some research, my friend ! that is why i like the holiograms & prisims,sp? for
Toluca MX manufactured Roche V-10mg's. You can call the publicity director at the Roche Toluca plant in MX to verify the
Bin numbers, serial numbers, etc. as I did so, once, from Los Cabos. (on one of 4 trips to MX) I give no advise, but
I learned the hard way, next time, if I travel to MX, I will get a MX M.D, + a referral, from a MX big hotel resort. SY
vendors (for me) can be risky, just my 2 cents worth, especially since the Pandemic. Night & Day since going to MX
1990's, & early post 9/11, early 21st century. (Nogales by car, to a cruise to Cozumel) from Miami FL..
Now, Fent scares me, rarely found in a benz*, but one never knows, but in pm's, very scary to me.

F. Generic Diaz from either Amsterdam, or, in the Caribbean (St. Marteen) are excellent quality, imported from the
Netherlands, at least about 5 years ago. Roche Val's from Pakistan, are NOT licensed by Roche, (Switzerland) but
the Martin Dow Roche look a likes are manufactured at the old Roche Karachi estate, where the presses were left
behind, almost 10 years ago; had a GC/MS test run on them, way back & the test results showed 7.2 mg of legit
diaz in the blue 10 mg of Martin Dow embossed Roche V 10's. (about 7+ years ago).
formulation for pure Diaz in the 10 mg blue Roche pills. (thus a bit weak, but will do, (back in the year 2015/2016).

G. Last audit from Martindale, the following countries, just before the worldwide pandemic, the following countries,
discontinued Roche being the sole mfg of Roche Vali*m: As of Feb 2020, 40th edt of Martindale, London UK
Finland
Germany (Grenzach-Wylan Roche Pharma AG Plant) on the Rhine River
Indonesia
Ireland

H. Thailand (Roche Vali*m removed from the market, per audit from Martindale February 2014) 38th edition

I. Denmark (Roche Vali*m removed from the market, per audit from Martindale February 2011) 37th edition

Thanks again, @cajunbulldog & @Heinz for the "like" & any other PR members
That was a well spoken response. Since 2005 all of my meds have been presribed.I have ordered the occasional codeine product and rarely benzos. I mainly have a ear for support and research which helps me focus thru bipolar moods that can come out of nowhere.
 
I love Kasalol but Galenka's Diaz, purchased 3 times from different Serbian vendors is so worthless that even after taking 6 within 3 hours I felt nothing. It's probably all talc.
 
When I used V's Ap's were the best IMO. I believe ttm had some Martin/Roche/Dow produced in the middle east that were nice! They may have been clonaz, not sure, senior moment. Went back to the start of thread and got a kick out of the debate over Bensidine vs Ap's. Tried the B's as folks loved them and they were cheaper. IMO I got what I paid for and never bought them again. DC
 
The best UK diazepam now that Actavis has changed is in my opinion, TEVA

The best from outside the UK I have tried is a close tie between HK (Hong Kong pharmaceuticals) and the Iranian brand Loghman. There is not much between them. The only difference being- I have had the HK loose where as the Loghman are in blisters of 15.
Also, I have had D5's and D10's from Thailand which were excellent.
These 3 were better than the Martin Dow Valium. I was expecting more from ACTUAL Valium, but no, they did not compare to Loghman or HK.
 
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I love Kasalol but Galenka's Diaz, purchased 3 times from different Serbian vendors is so worthless that even after taking 6 within 3 hours I felt nothing. It's probably all talc.
The Galenika Bensedin are different. It's almost as if you have to know what to look for to feel them. I bought 900 of them. 600 with the old packaging, 300 with the new.
At first I thought they were under-dosed like a lot of people were saying, but I went from Loghman, described by many as the best on the market, to Bensedin and after 2-3 weeks, I didn't get any withdrawals. Then I was able to feel them. For me, they hit me very quickly and are very good at making my anxiety disappear.
There was a study done once, long ago, that showed that people that take diazepam unknowingly, the med has no effect on them. But if you tell them they are taking a powerful anti anxiety drug, that's when they feel diazepam. it sounds odd, but I can promise you it is true.

That's what I think happened with Bensedin on me. So many people were saying Bensedin were under-dosed, I expected them to not work. But, when I found out out how they effected me, that's when I found the sweet spot and now they are as effective as any other diazepam for me 😊
 

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I personally found Bensedin Valium weak. When I received an order they were chalky with pits in them. I actually found 4 5mg betapam much more effective than 2 10mg Bensedin(they seemed underdosed to me). I prefer the Apaurin brand if im buying Valium from Eastern Europe
 
In my own experience the best diazepam I’ve ever had the pleasure of buying is the Auprin brand although it’s not easy to procure anymore sadly.
I noticed that before the Serbs started to find it almost impossible to import from had changed from Auprin to Bossaurin 10mg bought them once and they couldn’t touch my favourite Auprin especially as they were exactly the same price!.
Deanzer….
 
These Bensedin I got years ago were top notch quality and the strongest/best Diaz I had tried but I received some not to long ago and they are bunk!!! Makes me wonder about the generics and the changes of the packaging Etc.
 

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These Bensedin I got years ago were top notch quality and the strongest/best Diaz I had tried but I received some not to long ago and they are bunk!!! Makes me wonder about the generics and the changes of the packaging Etc.
Dynamite od from the country of origin.
Full of chalk if not
 
These Bensedin I got years ago were top notch quality and the strongest/best Diaz I had tried but I received some not to long ago and they are bunk!!! Makes me wonder about the generics and the changes of the packaging Etc.
Dynamite od from the country of origin.
Full of chalk if not
Yes you are absolutely right as unfortunately more brands are getting messed with fillers Etc.
We really need to be more cautious with pills in strips. There is one med I use for anxiety that still comes in sealed small glass bottles with the cotton ball at the top, And these are better than any other brands I've tried....at least I know they are the OG!
 
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