The weird demonisation of Valium

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Bullet888

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Valium (diazepam) has been around since the early 1960s, and despite being one of the oldest and most recognized benzodiazepines on the market, it often gets a bad rap today. Yes, it has its share of side effects—like sedation, dependence, and withdrawal issues—but these are well-documented and have been studied extensively over the decades.

Meanwhile, SSRIs, which are comparatively newer (Prozac was first approved in the late 1980s), also come with their own list of side effects—ranging from sexual dysfunction to weight gain, and even increased anxiety in some cases. The question is whether Valium’s risks are significantly worse.

In reality, both drug classes can be safe and effective when used appropriately under medical supervision. The difference is that Valium, with its decades of clinical use, has become somewhat “demonized” because it’s now a known quantity—people are aware of the potential for dependence and misuse. SSRIs haven’t been on the scene quite as long, so the long-term effects aren’t as deeply etched into public consciousness.

Another possible reason for the widespread demonization of Valium in recent years is a broader shift in public and professional attitudes toward psychoactive drugs, driven by concerns over addiction and the desire to promote treatments perceived as “safer” or more modern. Some experts argue that increased regulatory pressure and tighter prescribing guidelines, particularly in the wake of the opioid crisis, have led physicians and healthcare organizations to become more cautious with any medication that carries a risk of dependence. Others point to the pharmaceutical industry’s promotion of newer antidepressants—many of which are still under patent—over tried-and-true benzodiazepines. Additionally, there has been a cultural shift in psychiatry toward non-sedative treatments and talk therapies, causing long-standing medications like Valium to be regarded with skepticism. Over the past five years, these factors have combined to create a kind of moral panic around benzodiazepines, despite their lengthy track record of responsible use and well-understood side effect profile.

I understand that other benzos are 10 times the potency and have a much shorter half life than Valium but doesn't that just suit the drug companies? I.e. is more addictive.

In my own personal experience I have extreme anxiety and have had it all my life I am embarrassed about it and hide the fact I suffer from anxiety. Doctors in the UK handout SSRIs like they are candy forever and a day with no inhibition whatsoever I looked my prescription record the other day and first of all I was surprised at the amount of different SSRIs I have tried and the side effects some of which especially when starting a course of horrifying
 
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Just an FYI. Other benzodiazepines are not ten times stronger. For example, the only benzo that is more popular is alprazolam, and the three sizes are of each are basically equivalent. As in 10, 5, and 2 mgs. of diazepam are equivalent to 2, 1, and .05 mgs. of alprazolam. Some equivalence charts consider a 1 mg alprazolam as the equivalent of 10 mg diazepam, so it might be chemically ten times, but clinically you need to look at an equivalence chart.
 
Valium is another casualty of the addiction hysteria. While it's true that there were a lot of deaths brought about by oxycontin being overprescribed and passed out at pill mills with complete abandon, true addiction stats are the same as they ever, were but somehow the powers that be have decided that anyone who uses these meds are way more likely to become addicts than they were before the oxy period.

It's sad that hysteria is still winning over reason. I wish I could see the pendulum start swinging back to the center, but so far it isn't looking real good. Places like this forum which at least help us to access what we need are lately really our only options, imho...
 
I've been thru a litany of just about every common SSRI SNRI SDRIs that are available in the U.S. and none of them were of any help whatsoever compared to the anxiety relief I was able to find with benzodiazepines. (Actually had the best results from an ancient tricyclic when it came to antidepressants.) But Valium was never one of them that I melded with. I think the half-life was too long and they were too subtle.

But I can sort of understand why prescribing authorities are skittish about them. And I would attribute that to the ease of addiction and the fact that benzos are one of the few drugs where the withdrawals could kill you if you stop cold turkey. Also long term studies from a few I glossed over had some scary conclusions about higher incidence of dementia found in patients who had been prescribed benzos for long periods earlier in their lives. (I hope those studies have been refuted!!!) So there are plenty of known and potential risks involved with benzodiazepine use/abuse to warrant the skepticism I do believe.
 
I have no doubt strong benzodiazepines with a short half life are extremely problematic by also won't deny that excessive use of diazepam will probably give you early onset dementia. I have suffered with anxiety for the entirety of my life and panic attacks leave me completely useless for at least a day I also suffer with sweaty palms and irregular urination for me personally diazepam alleviates many of these problems.

Having experienced most of the SSRIs and others particularly two of them made me completely crazy it was frightening when I came off them and looked at the chaos that I had caused that was frightening so on balance I would rather live now and pay later rather than live in extreme discomfort and depression only to end up with dementia anyway it might sound stupid but being superfit in your 80s and 90s if you get there is not logical
 
I've been thru a litany of just about every common SSRI SNRI SDRIs that are available in the U.S. and none of them were of any help whatsoever compared to the anxiety relief I was able to find with benzodiazepines. (Actually had the best results from an ancient tricyclic when it came to antidepressants.) But Valium was never one of them that I melded with. I think the half-life was too long and they were too subtle.

But I can sort of understand why prescribing authorities are skittish about them. And I would attribute that to the ease of addiction and the fact that benzos are one of the few drugs where the withdrawals could kill you if you stop cold turkey. Also long term studies from a few I glossed over had some scary conclusions about higher incidence of dementia found in patients who had been prescribed benzos for long periods earlier in their lives. (I hope those studies have been refuted!!!) So there are plenty of known and potential risks involved with benzodiazepine use/abuse to warrant the skepticism I do believe.For the reasons you mention doctors should make that o for VERY CLEAR before offering benzos to someone. But again, not everything needs to be should be denied a quality of life medicine because a small percentage will become addicted! It’s on the person who does become addicted to take responsibility by asking for help or at the very least, to manage their addiction.
And it’s on the doctor who gives someone benzodiazepines to make the information about the dangers VERY CLEAR. But it’s still the responsibility of the person that does get addicted to deal with that by either getting help or at least managing their addiction. It’s not the doctors responsibility and by making it the doctors responsibility- that’s why no one will prescribe any longer. 🤷‍♂️

I say this again and again - we don’t stop selling alcohol to EVERYONE because the same percentage of folks who become addicts is very likely the same amount who become alcoholics? Why is that?
 
You know, I think Alprazolam and benzo's in general are getting a really bad rap these days, especially with the new generation of Physicians that are coming in that are more familiar with addiction.

Personally, I've never seen or felt the luster of Valium. I've taken up to 100mg and it wasn't something that was enjoyable. No euphoria, no anxyioltic effects really...

I did a Genesight test and Valium (along with Chlordiazepoxide/Librium) were some of the medications that didn't have many metabolites that binded to my receptors nor interacted with any of my enzymes, etc. I probably have to take 200mg to feel something. Alps still take the cake for me 🎂 😃
 
I have a legal klonopin script but prefer valium.Don't partake anymore because it takes so long to clear out of body for drug rest. I blew one test up with the va but they are not my writer.My private psych has not tested me yet but I have signed all the papers that means I am subject to testing.
 
I have a legal klonopin script but prefer valium.Don't partake anymore because it takes so long to clear out of body for drug rest. I blew one test up with the va but they are not my writer.My private psych has not tested me yet but I have signed all the papers that means I am subject to testing.
I also prefer Valium over my legal script of Xanax .
 
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