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snoochums

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I just tried this and I have to say- I am impressed! My doctor started me on the lowest does and I felt something the first day. Anyone else here have experience with this drug? Any thoughts? I like it because it lasts longer throughout the day than Adderall. There are no late afternoon crashes.
 
I like this much better than Adderall. There is essentially no crash when it wears off. Adderall makes me feel horrible when it wears off.
Glad you found it.
Also, go to there website and they have a coupon that is good for 6 months. You can even use it with your copay.
 
Awesome, thanks for the info! The co-pay is expensive. I will check out the coupon! :)
 
@snoochums whilst I have not tried it myself, I can tell you that Vyvanse is superior for the treatment of ADHD (that's all it's used for where as Adderall is not) and contains the essential amino acicd L-Lysine, which is what would give it the sustainability and longevity in brain function. Hope it keeps helping. Finding a good fit can be tricky. Best of luck.
 
I am glad you like the drug @snoochums. I have tried it as an alternative to 15mg of Adderall twice a day and found that, while it was very smooth, it was very weak and lasted maybe 5 hours (the Adderall lasts about 4 hours each, for a total of 8 hours). Oddly enough, redosing the Vyvanse had no effect whatsoever, as I felt nothing from the second dose. Given the fact that it does not contain levoamphetamine, like Adderall, this will likely contribute to some of its smoothness (levoamphetamine is more peripheral nervous system stimulation, think physical, while dextroamphetamine, Vyvanse is the prodrug of dextroamphetamine, is more central nervous system, think brain, stimulation). The fact that it is a dextroamphetamine prodrug (prodrug means it is metabolized, in this case by the liver, into another drug: lisdexamfetamine to dextroamphetamine) and released slowly, should also contribute to its smoothness, however this aspect might also be the cause of poor response rates experienced by individuals; everyone metabolizes things differently. In regards to this point, I have read anecdotal reports of individuals stating a higher dose is required for Vyvanse when compared to other amphetamines. Personally, I have not tried a higher dose and switched back to Adderall after I found it did not work for me.

I do tend to prefer dextroamphetamine over a combination of it and l-amphetamine (which is what Adderall is). L-amph tends to induce a greater amount of anxiety in me. Without a tolerance to Adderall, I tend to get very tired and have a panic attack upon it reaching peak effects. Unfortunately, I have such a difficult time trying to fill dextroamphetamine that I am forced to use Adderall. Vyvanse tends to be easier to find though, at least in my experience.
 
Hi, sorry for the late response, I have been out of town. I started at 30 mg and now I am at 50. I love it. I can't take it late in the day- I would be up all night! I can't even imagine re-dosing, lol. But yeah, we all process differently and this works wonders for me. Glad you have something to help you for now and I wish you luck finding dextroamphetamine !
 
I took vyvanse for a month, every week monday - thursday with friday - sunday being my "off" days. I disagree about it causing little or no after/side effects. The first day I took it, I was stupid enough to take two 30mg pills. It did feel amazing, but I hadn't taken another drug (adderall was my stim of choice) for over 4 months - I had no tolerance. I stayed up for over 30 hours. I don't know if it was coincidental but I remember when I did sleep I slept for over 12 hours, intermittently waking up with a very bad fever/upper respiratory infection. That subsided after only 2 days thankfully.

I waited a week before doing it again. During the following week, it felt great. Wasn't as potent as my first day obviously (one 30mg pill a day) but I had no sides or no bad after effects. However after the second week I started to notice a general bad and sort of hopeless, nihilistic feeling come over me in the evening (depression). It seemed to get more intense the more days in a row I took the pill (I'm aware this is generally a bad thing to do anyway, but I did it with adderall).

Vyvanse is much less harsh than adderall but it can still be abused in my opinion. This "non-abusable" term that doctors say didn't hold up for me. I remember waking up everyday ecstatically wanting to go to work purely because I could take the drug (it's better when you have things to do on it or in social situations).
 
I prefer Adderall to Vyvanse. Vyvanse made me feel kind of foggy and playing around with the dose didn't seem to help. Adderall doesn't last as long and I feel less spacey using the 10mg XR as opposed to the 30mg of Vyvanse.
 
I was diagnosed with a ADHD around the age of 10 and am now 28. Since I was a kid Ive been on everything, mostly adderall for the past few years [20 mg, 3X], but I just moved and my new doctor didnt want to continue my adderall prescription so he put me on Vyvanse. I don't notice a thing, its been a week, and even the first day I didn't feel like I was able to focus or able to finish any of my designs [I study Architecture]. I am on 40 mg and even though I know this is a low dose, I should at least have noticed something, especially the first day. very weird and very disappointed since I was told it was a "wonder drug" for some people. I really hoped it would be for me as well, but not the case. Really bad timing since I am now struggling to get my portfolio together, but I can't seem to stay focused for more than 10 minutes. Is this normal? I don't know the equivalency ratios between these medications because the information Ive found is so inaccurate. Do I just need a higher dose?
 
I was diagnosed with a ADHD around the age of 10 and am now 28. Since I was a kid I've been on everything, mostly adderall for the past few years [20 mg, 3X], but I just moved and my new doctor didn't want to continue my adderall prescription so he put me on Vyvanse. I don't notice a thing, its been a week, and even the first day I didn't feel like I was able to focus or able to finish any of my designs [I study Architecture]. I am on 40 mg and even though I know this is a low dose, I should at least have noticed something, especially the first day. very weird and very disappointed since I was told it was a "wonder drug" for some people. I really hoped it would be for me as well, but not the case. Really bad timing since I am now struggling to get my portfolio together, but I can't seem to stay focused for more than 10 minutes. Is this normal? I don't know the equivalency ratios between these medications because the information Ive found is so inaccurate. Do I just need a higher dose?

I've noticed that Dr's around here are prescribing the Vyvanse more and more along with trying to switch people from adderall to it. With that the ones that have had ADHD for several years they started giving a small adderall IR dose usually 10mg with 60 mg of Vyvanse, none of them seem to care enough to find out why, but I would theorize that the adderall helps with the inattentiveness more and is taken in the AM to overcome the people accustomed to adderall for several years and the initial kick/waves and by the time it would normally wear off they don't really notice since the Vyvanse is going in their system so there isn't the adderall crash many complain about. Maybe your Dr. is willing to try that with you?

Also it could be because a lot of the Ins companies over the past few years have put dispensing limits to 60 count on the medication regardless of dose which I was on 15mg 3's and see you were on 20mg which there is no way to get around the insurance limitations in your case since the XR's have a limit of 30 fortunately my Dr at the time just moved it to 30mg 1/2 TIB as he wanted to move me to XR's 2x's daily but there wasn't a way for the mg's to add up and stay under 30 count.

Later I was basically forced to go to the XR's and have noticed a stigma for us old timers who were given the IR's before the XR's existed or were to costly and that last year of IR's it seemed like I would get dirty looks and more n more questions even though I never asked for an increase nor had 1 the entire time I was on it and like you I work in a professional roles which they were all aware of and I typically was always in a suit or similar having to rush there to get the written rx.

It also happened to start around the same time the reports of college abusers were in major publications and news stations and of the people I know with ADHD most were already switched to XR's I was able to avoid it since the doc was compassionate enough with Ins premiums for business owners and the high costs of the XR's wo Ins and didn't force it since he was paying nearly $1000 a month for ins and understood why I dropped mine and waited till I was on a new plan (or realized I was when I used it for my annual checkup)

The handful of people that were on adderall before and take Vyvanse now are on a 60mg dose w/ 10mg of adderall IR, I don't know what their prior dose was, but I imagine rather high or similar to yours.

I did try the Vyvanse for a cpl week as the XR's really don't seem to work the same for me well (even though I would take 1 ir in the AM then split the other 2 into 4+ doses throughout the day to minimize the sweating/anxiety) but I did notice that the inattentive aspects for me at least were a lot worse with the Vyvanse and getting started was extremely difficult, but when/if I could get moving into the task right away it did seem to work well at keeping focused and last a full 10-12hr workday + 1hr morning commute where the XR's barely make it till lunch then a dreaded blank stare n fog is there the rest of the day and basically a useless mental state for anything requiring real thought which unfortunately was usually the only time I had to work on long term projects, ultimately after much hassle and letting them try different things I was able to get 1 IR and XR daily but wish they would agree to letting me try the Vyvanse and 1ir like others are on as I think that would work for the longer then typical hours needed and leave the IR to utilize for the inattentiveness since even with the XR/ir it doesn't cut it with a typical 14hr day (with commute) and nothing gets done by the time I get home.

But the inattentive factor is my biggest struggle which has only worsened over the years as technology as fast as it moves is really still the same at its core as it was in the late 90's

Either Way 40 mg if you were on 20mg ir TIB seems extremely low and I would think a minimum of 60 mg is needed and believe they come in even higher doses. Let alone even if mg for mg they were the same the Vyvanse is rated for a longer time release, so you would be receiving less mg per hour which I'm sure your body has become accustomed too.

Have you tried taking a break for at least 2 weeks from the medicine entirely? If your Dr. won't work with you and you don't seem to notice any benefits from the med you really have nothing to lose trying that and seeing if you really aren't benefiting at all from the treatment and can rule out if it may just be a tolerance/effect from IR to XR adjustment as well?
 
My son is on Vyvanse and doing well on it. He is 12. My understanding is that doctors are switching to Vyvanse because it cannot be snorted to get an immediate high. It only releases if you swallow it. Now I am purely talking from the extended release viewpoint.
 
My understanding is that doctors are switching to Vyvanse because it cannot be snorted to get an immediate high. It only releases if you swallow it. Now I am purely talking from the extended release viewpoint.

It can't be snorted to get any high.
 
It can't be snorted to get any high.

Right. Many doctors I know are somewhat more comfortable prescribing it because the formulation is more difficult to abuse.
Not just by snorting but also via smoking and IV.
Of course, it is still abused by taking high doses PO. No surprise there.
 
@snoochums, Vyvanse is great for about the first year. I found that my body seemed to not be metabolizing the lisdex into Dex as well as it used to. I read into it and found some research suggesting thay vyvanse can cause a depletion in natural lysine making it harder for the body to metabolize. I also found the vyvanse to make me spacey as well. I switched to Dex ir and it took care of the problems. And for the record Dex is nothing that great to snort, it can't be Iv'd( at least not easily), and there really isn't that big of a rush from it no matter the ROA. Vyvanse doesn't prevent abuse, it prevents the ability to tailor your meds for the day. And also adds money to big pharmas pockets at the expense of our treatment options.
 
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TBH, not a fan of Vyvanse for several reasons. The foremost reason being that I have been on Adderall for over a decade, at a substantially high dose, and it just doesn't work as well as the Adderall tabs or even the XR capsules. Obviously, YMMV, depending on time on stimulant medication, tolerance, etc.

The second reason being the fact that it is essentially a money grab by Shire. As soon as patents on XR were close to expiration, they release Vyvanse under the guise of being less abusable (which it may or may not be, but that is a whole separate debate). I was prescribed this for a month. I found it inferior to generic Adderall (both formulations) and also pretty expensive (I believe it was around $200 for 60 70mg capsules, with what was IMHO a great rx insurance plan).

But to each his own, and if it is working for you, I'd say stick with it if you can afford it. You can always (usually, depending on your doctor) move up to Adderall XR or instant release but it is much harder to move back to Vyvanse once you've spent some time on Adderall or Dexedrine (barring a decent dosage increase, which may help make it an easier transition).
 
I've been on ADHD medication since I was 8. Even participated in a clinical trial for a ADHD med years ago. Vyvanse, worked actually great for a little while. The first month or so, it worked great, just fine. Than.... it stopped working. My doctor kept having to increase my dose so much so, that I maxed out in less than 6 months. Even after that, My Grades begin to slip so badly, I almost failed a grade while I was in High School. That medication which I thought was a wonderful new miracle, I ended up hating.

Now... I know, a lot of people have success on Vyvanse. But, I swear. I think Adderal is a 1000x Better. I've been on 30mg since what, seems like forever.. and it still works fine for me.
 
I am up between straterra, vyvanse or concerta...I absolutely can not take adderrall ..it dulls my creativity and makes me more frustrated.....so I'm going to start with the non stim this time.
 
I was diagnosed with ADD nearly 12 years ago and have tried a variety of medications. I can honestly say that Vyvanse is the best that I have tried. The come down is so much smoother than most other stimulants. I currently take 50 mg in the morning.
 
I was diagnosed with a ADHD around the age of 10 and am now 28. Since I was a kid Ive been on everything, mostly adderall for the past few years [20 mg, 3X], but I just moved and my new doctor didnt want to continue my adderall prescription so he put me on Vyvanse. I don't notice a thing, its been a week, and even the first day I didn't feel like I was able to focus or able to finish any of my designs [I study Architecture]. I am on 40 mg and even though I know this is a low dose, I should at least have noticed something, especially the first day. very weird and very disappointed since I was told it was a "wonder drug" for some people. I really hoped it would be for me as well, but not the case. Really bad timing since I am now struggling to get my portfolio together, but I can't seem to stay focused for more than 10 minutes. Is this normal? I don't know the equivalency ratios between these medications because the information Ive found is so inaccurate. Do I just need a higher dose?

I am having the same experience with vyvanse. Nothing at all. No change. I had an old script for 40 and a newer script for 50 mg. So I took both today , 90 mg. Total and got nothing done. It was my day off. Hyperfocused on this board all day basically. I know it's not magic but come on....90 mg. That can't be normal. Been on it a few months. Tried concerta and it didn't help me much either. What is wrong with me? I'm calling her nurse for a heads up since my appointment isn't till the 29th. I really don't want to tell her I tried 90 mg. But I did have a benzo today. But don't everyday so I don't know if that is what lessened the vyvanse effects. I would so much like to be like most people this med helps.
 
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