What's Considered a Large Order?

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In previous discussions, or in generalized threads for different vendors, it has been said by many to not order too many as it would be flagged by customs as possible direct link to you as likely to distribute. I'm interested to know everyone's thoughts on what is too many? In the past threads, I have read many like to stick to the 90 day supply rule, is true for most of you? A 90 day supply for one person may be a month supply for another depending on the medication dosage.

Some vendors will go into the thousand or more counts, and the more you get the lower the price. Is the risk worthy of the price, and if you or anyone else you know have had LE problems due to a large order being seized can you share the story as a tale of caution. Because to be honest, I want to place larger orders since getting anything delivered these days is a crapshoot, as we're seeing delays for up and over two months.

I feel like with the shipment delays on top of seizures you almost have to place another order as soon as you get one, if you get one at all. These frustrations are leading me down a path of wanting to order in bulk, while at the same time I don't want to be getting any unwanted visitors.
 
Personally I try to stick to a strict 90 quantity at a time. But it all depends on what you're ordering too. The lower the category the lower the quantity I'd be willing to risk ordering. Another big consideration is your state's laws. In my state for example the offense/legal jeopardy for possession of certain schedules of drugs is based on quantity. If I were ordering one of those I'd make darn sure to stay under the limit.
 
From customs perspective anything under 3 months supply is considered personal use...and I would agree with cp2k that this would mean 90 count. So let's say valium, for example, you can get 2mg or 10mg - I think 90x10mg tabs would be much less problematic than 450x2mg tabs, even though it would be exactly the same amount of the active ingredient.
Why not just make multiple multiple orders over the course of a few weeks instead of buying in bulk?
 
$hipping makes multiple orders prohibitive, at least from my guy in IN.
Plus the stress of waiting as most folks order when supply gets low.

I've received orders in the low hundreds several times that often included bulkly ampules.

I dont think there is any rhyme or reason to it when ordering smallish packages.
 
Order smaller quanities and pay more for s&h over longer periods of time, than having a amazon package show up on your front steps
 
They aren’t looking for small timers. The number of arrests for benzos was minimal to nearly non existent when i researched and posted the study on one of my posts years ago. Think really big order to get attention in the us. Just repeating what I’ve read from law enforcement statistics.
 
@fundus Usually they focus more on big shipments, like a cargo or baggage and only in illegal drugs when it comes to normal mail shipments. However, in the worst scenario, it's good to have some medical papers that prescribed you that medication in the past, or that you had several pain... just in order to have a defence against a fine if they decide to investigate you. But the % it's extremely low for 90 days of medication.

Anyway check the laws, for example now possession of Tramadol without a prescription has a 2 year jail sentence and sending it to UK 14 years of prision. And as there is this USA alarm with fentanyl and oxicodone... laws can change really quickly all around the world as USA have a big power in make other countries change laws. Not too far the times we were able to buy amphetamines OTC in European Pharmacies or other psychotropic drugs... and now it's considered in Europe as a "very harmful drug" so they process you like if it's cocaine or heroine.
 
I just this week ordered £500 and got ripped off from fast UK meds
 
@BigG Ouch! That’s terrible. I’m so sorry that happened to you. That’s a lot of money to lose. I hope you’re able to find another vendor so you can at least reorder and get what you need.

I’m just thankful that this forum is here so people can share things like scam vendors, and hopfully save someone else from losing money to those jerks.
 
There are no personal use laws in the Usa so it is your decision as to what you want to risk. Others are correct that the larger orders are cheaper per pill.
 
I'd say 90 or less for personal use.
And that might be risky so 60 or even 30 is better for personal use.
 
cp2k said:
Personally I try to stick to a strict 90 quantity at a time. But it all depends on what you're ordering too. The lower the category the lower the quantity I'd be willing to risk ordering. Another big consideration is your state's laws. In my state for example the offense/legal jeopardy for possession of certain schedules of drugs is based on quantity. If I were ordering one of those I'd make darn sure to stay under the limit.
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This. I once consulted with a lawyer on this topic (just because). 90 is technically an amount that could be considered for personal use, so that could be a potential reason for your ordering that quantity. Ordering, say, 500 of something, though, is more likely to gain attention and raise eyebrows because they think you're trying to buy enough to sell. So that's one way it's viewed. Not saying I agree with this, just repeating what I was once told.
 
heavymetalviolet said:
cp2k said:
Personally I try to stick to a strict 90 quantity at a time. But it all depends on what you're ordering too. The lower the category the lower the quantity I'd be willing to risk ordering. Another big consideration is your state's laws. In my state for example the offense/legal jeopardy for possession of certain schedules of drugs is based on quantity. If I were ordering one of those I'd make darn sure to stay under the limit.
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This. I once consulted with a lawyer on this topic (just because). 90 is technically an amount that could be considered for personal use, so that could be a potential reason for your ordering that quantity. Ordering, say, 500 of something, though, is more likely to gain attention and raise eyebrows because they think you're trying to buy enough to sell. So that's one way it's viewed. Not saying I agree with this, just repeating what I was once told.
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Most "maintenance" medications are filled in 90 day refills at this point in time, so it is fairly easy to make an argument that you are ordering 30, 60, or 90 based on a one per day dosage. Of course it helps if you have actually recently had a prescription for the medication you're ordering. The FDA actually has a page that implies that in some cases quantities up to 90 can be allowed: https://www.fda.gov/industry/import-basics/personal-importation

Personally, I always keep an archived copy of that on hand. My thinking (and I'm not a lawyer, I'm just an individual) is if an order ever actually got snagged and a knock on the door came I could always show the expired medication bottle I kept from my previous prescription, that FDA page, and plead ignorant since it implies it is allowed.

Like @heavymetalviolet said, if you're ordering 100's or 1k at a time obviously that's going to be hard to explain if a knock on the door comes.
 
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