Why don’t you use the darkweb?

[seashells]

@jaders yes, it can. Clear web can happen just like the dark web. On Dark web only has more LE because of alot of CI and CII are on their. Plus most people that have never been lucky enough to find a place like we have will always try the dark web 1st usually. Not all but most.

 

[Mick2]

@Mick2 I have to ask a question. You've posted 7 times on this one page about how great the dark web is and have went on to say that you were an established buyer on 2 sites. You also state that the dark web has the best prices, great quality, plus you dont have to pay untill you receive your mag and that the clear web in your op is riskier than the dark web. So, with all those positive things you have mentioned , why now bother with anything else?

I'm always open to spreading a more broad net in my search. The senior section here being a possibility.

 

[seashells]

@Mick2 That really doesn't answer my question but I guess it will have to suffice. I thought you were a pharmacist also? Just asking. I don't mean any harm.

 

[Mick2]

@seashells To give you a better answer as to why I believe the dark web has those advantages over the clear web is probably just my own experience. The quality I've experienced first hand on the dark web is spot on 100%. You can't top that. I have basically no experience with clear web vendors. The good vendors are easy to spot and vet based upon the reviews on those dark web markets. The prices I've seen on the clear web have sometimes been double or triple the prices of the dark web prices for the exact same product.......unless you are talking about indiamart or something. There is also encryption with communications on dark web markets. That does provide another layer of security beyond the anonymization with Tor.

Maybe those are better answers? And, honestly, I'm open to new things and comparing them. That's why I'm here.

 

[Mick2]

@seashells Yes, I am a pharmacist. I don't mind you asking because I've volunteered that information on the forum. If you ever have a question feel free to ask me!

I split your one post into two responses from me because I'm close to the 60 post threshold for senior status!

 

[Mick2]

@jaders yes, it can. Clear web can happen just like the dark web. On Dark web only has more LE because of alot of CI and CII are on their. Plus most people that have never been lucky enough to find a place like we have will always try the dark web 1st usually. Not all but most.

And this is precisely why I'm here!

 

[jaders]

@seashells To give you a better answer as to why I believe the dark web has those advantages over the clear web is probably just my own experience. The quality I've experienced first hand on the dark web is spot on 100%. You can't top that. I have basically no experience with clear web vendors. The good vendors are easy to spot and vet based upon the reviews on those dark web markets. The prices I've seen on the clear web have sometimes been double or triple the prices of the dark web prices for the exact same product.......unless you are talking about indiamart or something. There is also encryption with communications on dark web markets. That does provide another layer of security beyond the anonymization with Tor.

Maybe those are better answers? And, honestly, I'm open to new things and comparing them. That's why I'm here.

Hey. Glad to see you "made it!"

I think what @seashells is wondering, as am I, is why you'd torture yourself taking the chances that come from new places, if you have found a very reliable place/way to already find what you need? Pretty much every vendor here (except just a very few) have their ups and downs and prices keep going up as well. If I knew a had a rock solid place to get my medicine from, I would love to not risk the possibilities of fake meds or scammers, not to mention customs issues.

At least your endorsement of the darknet makes me feel like if I get desperate enough, I will have another option, but like crypto once was, the learning curve is offputting at this time...

 

[seashells]

@Mick2 I guess it's just hard for me to wrap my head around is all, I'm not trying to make you feel uncomfortable.
If I was you, and I had it made on the dark web, cheaper meds, great quality, you receive before you pay and being a certified buyer, I don't see the appeal to go anywhere else and take the chance of the unknown, getting scammed, paying more,etc. Unless you just like the thrill of it and when I started years ago I ordered from every where. That's all I meant.
I mean this is how we learn about each other, or really new members because most of are life's story are all over these threads. It's interesting when a new member joins especially with your background and profession.
I never went to dark web because of learning curve and it was intermediating to me. I found a few forms and got what I needed. Now this is only form I'm at, I really like it here.

 

[Mick2]

@Mick2 I guess it's just hard for me to wrap my head around is all, I'm not trying to make you feel uncomfortable.
If I was you, and I had it made on the dark web, cheaper meds, great quality, you receive before you pay and being a certified buyer, I don't see the appeal to go anywhere else and take the chance of the unknown, getting scammed, paying more,etc. Unless you just like the thrill of it and when I started years ago I ordered from every where. That's all I meant.
I mean this is how we learn about each other, or really new members because most of are life's story are all over these threads. It's interesting when a new member joins especially with your background and profession.
I never went to dark web because of learning curve and it was intermediating to me. I found a few forms and got what I needed. Now this is only form I'm at, I really like it here.

I'm not uncomfortable at all. No one has ever been scammed by just looking. I enjoy getting to learn about others and confer some of my knowledge. I like this forum for that.

I've been a senior member for less than 24 hours and I've not seen anything in the section so far that appeals to me enough regarding risk/price that would make me move off of that which I know is tried and true. Loose tramadol tablets? I'm not looking for tram but no way I would touch that if I was! Valium for $3/tablet? No way! I really don't like benzos anyway. I'm surely not paying that exorbitant amount! But, hey, I'm willing to explore and see what's available.

 

[Mick2]

@seashells To give you a better answer as to why I believe the dark web has those advantages over the clear web is probably just my own experience. The quality I've experienced first hand on the dark web is spot on 100%. You can't top that. I have basically no experience with clear web vendors. The good vendors are easy to spot and vet based upon the reviews on those dark web markets. The prices I've seen on the clear web have sometimes been double or triple the prices of the dark web prices for the exact same product.......unless you are talking about indiamart or something. There is also encryption with communications on dark web markets. That does provide another layer of security beyond the anonymization with Tor.

Maybe those are better answers? And, honestly, I'm open to new things and comparing them. That's why I'm here.

Hey. Glad to see you "made it!"

I think what @seashells is wondering, as am I, is why you'd torture yourself taking the chances that come from new places, if you have found a very reliable place/way to already find what you need? Pretty much every vendor here (except just a very few) have their ups and downs and prices keep going up as well. If I knew a had a rock solid place to get my medicine from, I would love to not risk the possibilities of fake meds or scammers, not to mention customs issues.

At least your endorsement of the darknet makes me feel like if I get desperate enough, I will have another option, but like crypto once was, the learning curve is offputting at this time...

I think the point I was making is that I'm not taking "chances" by simply being a senior member and looking around. It's more of an interest/compare/contrast. I'm not going to get ripped off either way.

I've enjoyed being here because I've learned a lot about cbp and kind of what to expect when ordering internationally so even if I never use a vendor here it's been worth it in that regard.

 

[jaders]

@seashells To give you a better answer as to why I believe the dark web has those advantages over the clear web is probably just my own experience. The quality I've experienced first hand on the dark web is spot on 100%. You can't top that. I have basically no experience with clear web vendors. The good vendors are easy to spot and vet based upon the reviews on those dark web markets. The prices I've seen on the clear web have sometimes been double or triple the prices of the dark web prices for the exact same product.......unless you are talking about indiamart or something. There is also encryption with communications on dark web markets. That does provide another layer of security beyond the anonymization with Tor.

Maybe those are better answers? And, honestly, I'm open to new things and comparing them. That's why I'm here.

Hey. Glad to see you "made it!"

I think what @seashells is wondering, as am I, is why you'd torture yourself taking the chances that come from new places, if you have found a very reliable place/way to already find what you need? Pretty much every vendor here (except just a very few) have their ups and downs and prices keep going up as well. If I knew a had a rock solid place to get my medicine from, I would love to not risk the possibilities of fake meds or scammers, not to mention customs issues.

At least your endorsement of the darknet makes me feel like if I get desperate enough, I will have another option, but like crypto once was, the learning curve is offputting at this time...

I think the point I was making is that I'm not taking "chances" by simply being a senior member and looking around. It's more of an interest/compare/contrast. I'm not going to get ripped off either way.

I've enjoyed being here because I've learned a lot about cbp and kind of what to expect when ordering internationally so even if I never use a vendor here it's been worth it in that regard.

I also thought, perhaps mistakenly, that all darknet vendors were domestic and i guess that assumption was wrong? Not sure why I even thought that.

Customs is by far the worst part of this whole endeavor for me. Many years ago the difficult part was finding vendors. when the regular pharmacies first started not being able to send. But for the last few years that’s not the issue at all. It’s just getting trusted meds “thru the door…”

It’s saying something that that part has gotten a bit easier too. Not because customs has gotten easier - far from it. But the cat and mouse game will always play out and some vendors are getting better and better at playing “mouse.”

 

[tedh]

Well now I guess it’s time I start delving into the dark side. Besides I need more excitement in my life.

 

[Mick2]

I also thought, perhaps mistakenly, that all darknet vendors were domestic and i guess that assumption was wrong? Not sure why I even thought that.

Nah, lots of domestic U.S. and lots of non-domestic vendors. Plenty of both. Some of the non-domestic vendors only ship within their own countries, however....while many do ship internationally. You can easily weed the ones out that don't ship to the U.S. with the search function options, though, when looking for specific products or classes of product.

 

[Priv]

Lack of knowledge for me, I just need to look into it a bit more. Wouldn’t be against using it.

 

[onlyareader]

To answer the topic question, basically what a lot of others have said: I was able to find on the clearnet, and the need for crypto was an additional hoop I did not need to jump thru.

 

[ned]

Each time I travel the path of just looking I find the prices are for too high to feel good about placing an order.
Pharmacies here cross check a new patient's history of controlled substance prescriptions even if paying cash.
They got us by the short hairs.

 

[Taizen1992]

I will agree that prices on the dark web often seem worse than what you can find merely by being a senior member here. I've had a couple good experiences, however.

 

[jeopardyfan]

I am just very scared. Why? I do not know. Maybe because I don't know anything and I don't want to get scammed? don't like scammers lurk there?